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Thread: So penal is underpowered? or others are overpowered?4 Apr 2016, 16:35 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2016, 15:52 PMZombiFrancis I mean really, the Guard/Shock/Nothing choice for Soviets has always made things awkward for Soviets to tech AND field a competent army. Penals have to get something like a grenade, a weapon upgrade that isn't a flamethower, and/or more durability with vet to make any changes worthwhile. As it stands Penals don't bring anything to the Soviet arsenal other than Satchel charges, which have been pretty much nerfed to being used only to kill Ostheer bunkers. I think the issues compounded by the poor state of Soviet T4, while less of an issue 1v1 the need to fix both mainline infantry through Guards/Shocks and to get something vaguely useful late game is alot of pressure on docs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penals Adjustment4 Apr 2016, 16:19 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2016, 14:54 PMMyself Why don't you explain it to me then? will even start a different thread about it. There are actual weapon profiles for weapon group simplest example hand help flamers...most of them use the same flat profile. Weapon profiles where introduced for balance reason and there is no contraction between weapon profiles and balance contrary to what you imply. And Penals DPS dropoff is way bigger then all the other semi autos / Carbines profiles, guess thats why Penals suck. Must be a typo, Lelic should match the dps curve to the correct profile and buff the long range dps by 70%. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Idea for Penals3 Apr 2016, 21:15 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2016, 20:43 PMthedarkarmadillo Does this account for squad sizes? Becasue the extra model worth of damage and slower dps attrition from loses should also be considered It's a % so independent of size. Normalised to 22% an svt would do 1.3 dps @ 35. Guards do 1.4 so it's in the right ballpark. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: received_accuracy values3 Apr 2016, 17:53 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2016, 16:45 PMBohewulf many thanks for the fast reply. Excellent source! Just in case: It is up-to-date with the current patch, isnt it. If you want the current stuff its listed under the ebps tab on the attribute editor. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Idea for Penals3 Apr 2016, 17:24 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2016, 13:14 PMMyself I never claimed that they should not have a good weapon. On the other hand why do they need a weapon that does not follow weapon profiles and it is good at all ranges? If they need far DPS they should use a bolt action rifle or LMG If they need a mid DPS weapon they should use a semi automatic If they need a close weapon they should use SMG Ok Rifleman M1 does 25% of its 0 DPS @ 35 Gen G43 does 22% of its 0 DPS @ 35 PG G43 does 23% of its 0 DPS @ 35 PF G43 does 22% of its 0 DPS @ 35 Penal SVT does 13% of its 0 DPS @ 35 Spot the out of trend semi auto rifle. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penals Adjustment1 Apr 2016, 17:50 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2016, 12:07 PMAntemurale Penals Adjustment Penal Battalion -Cost increased from 270MP to 300MP. -Reinforce cost increased from 22MP to 27MP. -Population increased from 7 to 8. -SVT accuracy increased from 0.69/0.46/0.288 to 0.7/0.69/0.6. -SVT DPS increased from 6.207/2.166/0.778 to 6.3/3.249/1.618 -Flamethrower Package upgrade replaced with 2x DP-28 LMG upgrade, 75 Munitions. -Veterancy Rank 3 received accuracy buff decreased from -23% to -29%. Feel free to try them out in the workshop. Feedback is welcome. Get what your doing but DP's on penals is kind of borked - Guards do long range AI, Penals with DPs do long range AI, that will make one better and one unused most of the time. - Penals get a +69% bonus to accuracy at vet 3, Guards only get 30%, that makes Penals wwwwwwaaaayyyy better with DPs then Guards. If you decrease the vet bonus and keep the DPs Penals start to look more and more like a copy of Guards (boring) - You've buffed the SVT so it doesn't suck, but is better then the Guards mosin, with a flamer rather then DP's this might work, but with DPs it again makes Penals way better then Guards. - If there's no point in DP Guards, PTRS Guards are not really going to scale out of the light tank phase, doc PTRS cons are far better, as you have the cons already & can now get Penals rather then waste MP on Guards that don't scale as well. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Idea for Penals1 Apr 2016, 17:37 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2016, 01:31 AMZombiFrancis That's a simple tuning pack I put together to test changes to Soviet T1. Play the AI or grab a friend and try out some T1 modified Guards action. I like the concept of giving Sov a mainline scaling infantry but Guards in T1 leaves alot of rework in doctrines to accommodate them - not saying Sov wouldn't be a better faction for it just alot of stuff would need changing. How about the following; Remove flamer upgrade Penals start with Guard mosin lites as you propose Penals get the con doc PTRS upgrade instead of cons Penals get a 3 SVT upgrade with a buffed m1 profile That way; Guards stay useful & don't need changes, and Penals don't clash with Guards when upgraded No clash with engie flamer upgrade Penals can give LR support with their mosins to a con meat shield early or later backing up shocks Penals can give good mid range damage with a con screen in the event of no doc infantry Penals need cons or something for at nades. T1 with PTRS docs is interesting Jump back to quoted post1 Apr 2016, 01:31 AMZombiFrancis I find that Penal Battalions work well in a doctrinal sense. They weren't exactly the backbone of the Soviet Army to begin with, and in CoH2 they don't actually function as such either. Yeah its pretty daft, a specialised doc Penal squad geared up around fortification / garrison removal is pretty cool & you can pick the doc well when theres fortifications and garrisons that need removing. Having mainline kindof leaves it hard countered by anyone who doesn't build fortifications In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Let's scale poor Conscripts!31 Mar 2016, 16:21 PM Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2016, 11:21 AMisoul I feel that even at that role the Cons take quite many casualties in a rather short time. I can't tell if this is because Cons performance is too poor or the other mainline infantry performs too good ... maybe its a bit of both as well! It seems that soviets lack the munition sinks that every other faction have to improve their mainline infantry performance. Just speawing options to fix it; 1. DP lmg upgrade available at t3 or t4. Either global or per squad 2. Ppsh upgrade available at t3 or t4. Either global or per squad 3. Global upgrade costing munis to reduce reinforcement cost I think 1 is an "easy" option with all the other factions having lmg infantry, but its really dull and steps on Guards toes. 2 is abit more interesting and fuffy, it doesn't even brake the ppsh doc ability as that comes much sooner. 3 looks kind of interesting, rather then the squad getting more firepower, it becomes a better meat shield for other squads. It even has abit of counterplay in that wipes become more valuable. Unlikely to get looked at though unless the whole faction is reworked..... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals31 Mar 2016, 16:06 PM Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2016, 14:25 PMMyself Introducing weapons profiles (bolts action, carbine, smg...)instead of flat profiles was actually promoted by Relic and not me. Can't accept the credit for such a great improvement.. You seem to have a very weird idea of what flat mean grenadier_kar_98k_rifle_mp as percentage of DPS at range 0 1.00% 0.88% 0.76% 0.66% 0.59% 0.52% 0.45% 0.39% The DPS drop off is 40%.... Ok so comparing 0 & 35; Grens dropoff is ~60% - this is not flat and OK Rifles drop off is ~75% - this is more than Grens so not Flat and OK Penals drop off is ~87% - so decreasing this to match Rifles drop off would not make it flat so is OK Tommy drop off is ~40% - flatter then Grens must by IMBA Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2016, 14:25 PMMyself Actually they are anti garrison anti fortification... Anti garrison is covered by mollies / flam engies aswell anti fortification is pretty specialized so ok for a side role but not for mainline non-doc infantry AI is what cons are missing so fits well with the rest of non-doc infantry. Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2016, 14:25 PMMyself Finally you have seen the light, that their problem is the lack of flexibility Try to be less vulgar pls... So if you improve their flexibility by giving them OK (not good) dps at range this is a good thing yes? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals30 Mar 2016, 17:34 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2016, 16:54 PMMyself Some times I wonder if you bother to read what is already said in this thread, let me break this down one last time, after that I will just refer you back to what is already written. 1) 20 is the max range for a flamer increasing the effective range beyond that range makes the flamer upgrade questionable.... UTILITY ... a Penal squad with a flamer has no use outside 20. It must run to 20 and stay at 20. A Penal that can do reasonable dps at range give you the option of closing or stay remaining in heavy cover. No long range dps = no option = less utility. Flamers drop long range dps - its a choice how is a choice bad? Do I go for a flamer for close range damage, do I keep the rifle for long range. F/e PG's the upgrade doesn't have to be a mindless click - thats boring as hell and a bad design. Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2016, 16:54 PMMyself 2) It even has more DPS than a riflemen squad at some ranges... 106%(0) 123%(5) 109%(10) 84%(15) 74%(20) 67%(25) 62%(30) 56%(35) A 20% increase in mid DPS will bring flamer Penals close to DPS of flamer riflemen while being cheaper and tougher so it seems about right, any more DPS will probably prove problematic. Close to a standard rifle ..... at some ranges ..... a T1 dps dealer hardly outdamages a generalist with boat loads of options, just lol, put in weapon upgrades and frankly... why bother with a penal? Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2016, 16:54 PMMyself 3) A double range at range 35 (far) will bring each SVT to be 12% accurate than M1 bringing the total DPS of the squad around 1,12%1,20%= 134% more than riflemen and by vet 3 around 1,341,3= 174% more DPS than vet 3 riflemen while reaming cheaper, with more EHP and with less reinforcement cost. In other words broken... The number quoted was 8, abit below rifles and a 75% increase. Your ignoring the RA bonus rifles get that makes the ehp the same. Your ignoring the weapon upgrades rifles get, either AT or AI, your assuming that smoke + nade + at nade = satchel charge, just LOOOOOOOOL Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2016, 16:54 PMMyself 4) Flamers are best used at range 20 because they have a flat DPS curve not sort... That doesn't mean the SVT has to follow the same profile...... Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2016, 16:54 PMMyself In addition, as I have explained many times, I personally prefer other ways of making Penals more attractive and although the SVT weapon profile might need some tweaking (more DPS mid far, less close) I would rather see a Penals become tougher than deadlier... Big reworks are out of the picture because you know lelic. Concept wise I can see Penals working as a doc Soviet close range Ost, I've modded Penals into Strelki with DP & PTRS upgrades and it works great as another guy on the forum did with Guards. But keeping the current minefield of naff Soviet faction design how can you improve Penals with a minor change without clashing roles with another unit?.... not many options. Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2016, 16:54 PMMyself PLS try to read what is already written because at this point I am simply repeating the same things over and over again. Its because you just repeat the same stuff without any kind of justification. Give Penals more mid damage..... mmm great whats the point of that? what does it actually do in game. In: COH2 Balance