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Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 13:39 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2019, 13:30 PMmadin2 that's new to me that pioneers cant cap and as i mention earlier and you can see in the test's, if you skip boltser and upgrades LMG grens will overwhelm you before you will make it to Cromwell except you play way better then your opponent. lmg green will not overwhelm u as they are not vet3 early game (i know very well why u tested them at vet 3 as IS has minimal vet bonuses) and IS are still better at long range as u showed in ur test, or u can just use bolster and beat lmg green keeping ur munitions as shown by derby test In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 13:24 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2019, 13:18 PMmadin2 1) but the tech to P4 is what counts and its cheaper then UKF's tech with side tech + i calculated to build all buildings (T1,T2,T3) which in some cases can be skipped since you can build PGrens from T0 2) OST start with 430 Mp 20 Fuel and one Pio, so its 630Mp and 20Fuel. UKF start with 350 MP 20 Fuel and one IS, so its 620Mp and 20Fuel. The "free" IS is payed with the starting resources 3) That's true but for faust, nade and no need for weapon rack its a very good price for performance see point 1, side tech + normal tech cost just more then OST tech 4) yeah but when do you get the upgrade practical after the 3 or 4 squad, this dosen't make much difference osther like SU can't cap with engineer as u need to build stuff = more capping and more resources, and if so that means engineer should have same dps as IS which they don't, dumb point check again https://www.coh2.org/topic/96750/redirect-thread-faction-teching-and-timing u can skip bolster or upgrades too if u want to rush, it's not mandatory, they will still do their job bolster just make them near elite lvl In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 13:14 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2019, 13:13 PMKatitof The whole example is stupid, because if you aren't building HMG as 1st unit as ost, then you've clearly picked wrong faction. I'll stick by reasonable examples that revolve around med tank timing and possible BOs/side techs that come with it. that i agree too, not the stupid "we need to count all the upgrade for IS but let's skip tier 1 for green or the fact they have battle phases to pay more" https://www.coh2.org/topic/96750/redirect-thread-faction-teching-and-timing In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 13:11 PM what does that no mean ? that u can't respond ? that u agree 3 vs 2 IS is stupid ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 13:08 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2019, 13:06 PMKatitof Cost of tech AND tier structures is factored into balance for getting med tank. Side upgrades manpower cost and fact that ost starts with bonus MP just for being ost make it irrelevant. Grens pay around 0 fu and 0 mp for unlocking LMG and nades, because its not any kind of extra cost on top of their teching. Its hilarious that people are still dumb enough to try to use this argument. Buy the time you have the upgrade, you aren't going to be building even a single extra IS squad, unless you lose some. im literally talking about the 2 is vs 3 gren dumb example not medium tank timing read for once kat if u want to be mod u need to read all the post In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 13:02 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2019, 12:58 PMmadin2 what do you mean? Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2019, 12:08 PMmadin2 As we see on the test's bolster and weapon rack are mandatory upgrades if you want to survive as UKF in an even game. Usually in a 1v1 5 squads benefit from bolster and weapon rack so u can split the tech cost by 5. This would lead to another 60 MP and 10 Fuel for each squad. Then you have to reinforce to the 5th man for 28MP. So a 5 Man double Bren squad cost 358 MP 10 Fuel and 90 Mun. To test them again in a fair fight (by cost) i have to let fight two Section's against three LMG Gren's. It's 716 MP 20 Fuel 180 Mun 16 pop vs. 720 MP 180 Mun 21 pop Result: on all ranges in green cover, Gren's will win. I tested this 8 times for each range and i non of the test's Section's have won. this u forgot that 1) green pay for tier 1 so u didn't count it in the equation 2)1 IS is free form the start 3) green pays for more tech cost for lmg and nades (around 20 fu and 150 mp) 4) after upgrade any squad built will be 5 man with no extra cost if we count it then it's 317 mp 60 mp and 10 fu for green (diving x 3 tech cost) vs 358 mp 10 fu and 90 mun of IS so no it's not 3 green vs 2 IS it's 3 green vs 3 IS 1 with 4 men and no LMGs this uis not counting fiest IS is free if we do then it's 2 is with lmgs and 2 IS 4 men no lmg vs 3 greens In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 12:56 PM for green u skipped it for green u counted upgrade in cost vs cost and copletly skipped that 1) green need a tier 1 structure toi even be built, 2) 1 IS is free form the start 3)osth has lmg and nades upgrades integrated in the tech cost so basically u super inflated the IS cos and low balled gren cost In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Brits in 1v1 is a joke25 Oct 2019, 12:32 PM yea lets just skip the fact osther pays more for tech yep not gonna count it as i only make my points especially skipping tier 1 as all know gren is tier 0 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Re-balance Allied TDs penetration values25 Oct 2019, 12:06 PM just nerf the reload rate and add 40 deflection damage to both su 85 and m36 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Re-balance Allied TDs penetration values24 Oct 2019, 19:48 PM Guys u forget FF has Sherman armor In: COH2 Balance