No iam just making a over exaggerated claims to illustrate how ridiculous they are to begin with, you know like how you, the OP and all the whiny little axis players talk.
Fact is the moarter needs adjustment, its just not the end of world if it waits a bit.
Oh and playcard please, you been making to many exuses about it so now iam really interested.
Well of course, and if the Ost mortar was the one accidentally buffed then they would go "omg axis fanbois can't win without OP mortar".
relic always double check for axis bug but ally never ,if I counted well there was 1 bug for okw in this year about op thing it was Ferrari leig
If we talk about ally bug I have list somewhere in the basement
Welp guess axis players are gonna have to do the unthinkable of repositioning the mg when a moarter zeros in on it, aka what everyone else been doing because of the german moarter.
Locking entire sections of map with either a bunker or 260 unit days are no more, oh what a clamity how will i ever play the germana agian!!
you really think the usf mortar is ok while being 2 time better than ost with better vet and no tech cost paried with the best inf in the game ???????
Wp gg no reins
Playing numbers is fun huh. P4 is shit for the fuel cost and the OKW one even worse. Why no T34/85 in the numbers? And for the fuel cost the T34/76 is still just as good an all around tank as a P4 and at 80 fuel its a bargain.
he is not playing the number he is doing just this :
(When I write inside here means they are hidden)
" so guys we have 2 option option one cost 1000 (but the gain is 3000)
And option 2 cost 100 (but give us 50) . What do you chose gentlemen ?"
Kat took his time to explain his points, why don't you? So far, he got the best arguments.
????????icould do a shit post long 2 page would dat make it the best argument ?I gave you the stats told you were p4 is lacking and why is not effective
Has this thread turned into a katitof hate thread because he's was the only one to actually bother using game stats?
yes then one that favor his opinion he never point to the site page cause you can see the whole picture then and see that armor is the only thing p4 has and is not even that good
Well, seeing some of your posts recently, I'd say you aspire to top me and you're on a good direction to do that.
But...
For simplicity, I'll use the mid range penetration(as this is the range where most shoot outs happen unless one jumped on others rear), which is:
T34: 100
Cromwell: 120
Sherman: 120
P4: 110
Now, on to armor:
T34: 150
Cromwell: 160
Sherman: 160
P4: 180
Reload:
T34: 6,1
Cromwell: 5,9
Sherman: 5,9
P4: 5,6
I don't think I even need to do math for T34, because its obvious its at disadvantage here, unless it attacks first and gets on rear armor, but for the sake of discussion, I'll include it:
P4 vs T34
T34 have 55% to pen and needs on average 9 shots to kill P4.
P4 have 73% chance to pen and on average needs 5 shots to kill T34.
Difference is rather obvious who is the regular winner here and by what margin.
Now:
P4 vs Cromwell
Cromwell have 66% to pen and needs on average 6 shots, average TTK being 29,5 seconds.
P4 have almost 69% to pen and needs on average 6 shots as well, except it fires slightly faster, needing only 28 secs to kill cromwell.
While its not really crushing, P4 have advantage here.
Same numbers apply for sherman.
Accuracy of the guns is the same, BUT sherman got slightly bigger target size so its slightly easier to hit, tipping RNG scales in the P4 favor another bit more.
Conclusion:
Ost P4 have the advantage over every single allied stock, as I've said(which to you is delusional).
vs T34 there is no contest, winner is clear.
vs cromwell and sherman, the RNG is involved, but the odds still favor P4(slightly more vs sherman if we include accuracy and target size), just as I've said.
in the perfect world were tank stand still while they fight and mg are unflancable
0.75 accuracy on the move kat if only p4 or p5 got that
Ok you will say but who is faster and can easily crush inf ?
P4 is just bad with dat price 110 is the right one
Accuracy >pen if it doesn't it it can't pen