With the patch we have now ( dont know how it is going to be after 29) I have tried equip them with brens but dont see that much difference. So i have concluded its not worth it.
Yes they can fire on the move with brens. It is maby usefull on bigger maps where you sometimes cant get close with commandoes and your fighting mid\long range, but still you can only give them a max of two brens. If your up against lmg gren your still is going to loose 1vs1.
They are very good at ambush and close range without brens and that is the only use the commandoes. just Use the ammo for demo charges or give someone else brens |
No problem. If problem continous , we can play some 1vs1 games where you will be met agains this strategy and then we together analise the replay. (NOTE: I´m learning and analysing replays only on sunday)
If we could do this it would be great ! have some time now on the Sundday of 25. |
It depends on map, but basicly as i know ostheer goes
1-2 mgs and 3-4 ostruppens into fast 2 222s or double sniper covered by pak / 222.
YOu cannot right now fight agains this effectively in early game becuase IS get easily outnumbered outcaped and defeated if you loose your important houses.
All i reccomed is to 1. buy vanguard (yes p2w)
2. early game defend your buildings with 2 IS and one vickers then quicly tech to tier 2 where you build engineer and sniper to couner his snipers.
Then go at gun and agains one engineer.
Give both engineers brens (they have better dps than is) and later give then also to IS.
I recommemd more rushing cantuar becuase its your hope right now.
When you can call in commados glider and kick ostruppen ass with commados , they kill em sooner than can ostruppen retreat , also their great at hunitng snipers.
In the end of day go double at gun and crocodile.
RECAP:
early - 2 is , vickers - hold keay buildings and cut off
mid - engineer , sniper , at gun engineer or glider (depends on cp) bren guns. Try to be more conservative use sniper as coutnersniper and 222 engine damager, harras his cut of if you have option and rush centaur.
build commados to kill his snipers and wipe ostruppens.
Late - call in ass saving crocodile with double at gun.
Really its all about early game.
Just rush important buildings and try to hold him for as much long as you can until you manage to get centuar.
Thank you so much! |
90 Kill with churchill, every emplacement built. Commandoes, king tiger, flakpanzer, p4 you will see some much action!
Enjoy
Chef of Death |
Early 5 man upgrade helps you survive against ostruppen in the early game as it will divide the dps between 5 models instead of just 4. Romeo tends to upgrade to 5 man as it boosts their dps by 25%. There are people who don't get that upgrade because simply they think it will bleed them more than benefit them but from what i have seen and experienced its more of a benefit than a bleed.
Yeah seeen him do it too, i am normaly upgradeing bolster squads mid\late game. For nor i will try to make te bolster squd upgrade early game to see how that is. |
Great game! look at micro of the tank firefights! Well Played both players. |
Hello UKF player
I need some help deling with the osttruppen in general and also the ost doctrine.
I have played and watched Players get rekt playing btits vs them.
Of what ! can make out of it is early game ost really got the hole map locked down befor you get out 2\3 infentry sections.
Normaly you react by getting an mg and the struggle is microen youir units around the 4 ost spam you normaly see. The mg get flanked easiely. In short range firefight its killed in seconds. Then you just gave you a mg to the enemy. If you dont loose it, you dont really get to use it much. It depends on the map of course. I have seen 4 ost and 2 pioes with flametrower as a normale build for the ost to counter tranches and buildings.
Infentry sections are much better and last longer in firefights if in right cover, if flanked they still can take a beating but the manpower bleed early on and the lack of map controll are making me uneasy. The british tech up really slow and i know a 222 or flakpanzer rush is coming and i cant counter it good enouth. Mg bunkers and mines are makeing my map directions few and my enemy know where i am striking. GG, well not really BG!
So fellow UKF players, what do you guys do?
Thanks for reading this and all the feedback you are giving me and every one else.
Chef of Death |
The mines are bugged, saw a mine dont go off when a tank ran over it. |
Thanks eyelessJack32, tried the demo charge some times now and different damage output every time ^^ |
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