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As I was saying, I did explain my opinion but was disagreed with 3 to 1, which I wouldn't mind if it weren't for the bias presented during the stream by A_E before the game was even played, and how you agreed with him. I was unaware of these additional details until after the tournament games concluded, in the clips provided below.
I would not have accepted the conditions had I known I was allowed to press my opinion after (stfu), especially since it was said after DevM had stated his opinion, uninterupted. Not to mention what is seen in the clips provided.
Rules were also clearly broken, and had it been any other player I suspect a different scenario would have arisen.
I have the feeling you didnt line everything,because if you only look at the things you underlined you get a different story bcs you dont see the other messages. I played against aimstrong, i didnt feel any bias towards him or me during these matches. I think you are trying to make some things way bigger then they are without seeing the full picture here. And for the record, say you would have been playing luvnest: i personally would have let luvnest continue bcs it was clear he won that game. You should be happy you got a second chance and again im sorry if somehow we made you feel bad even though i dont see how...
I didn't choose to do this originally, in fact I was going to talk about this privately. But after seeing the log being edited, and the post made, I felt that was very misleading. Like I said, I don't enjoy stupid drama for a tournament I love being a part of, however the way the whole situation went down, and how it was handled afterwards, is just plain wrong in my honest opinion. Be in my shoes for a minute and see if you would interpret it differently? I sure didn't when I was talking and then silenced.
I understand u might have felt silenced even though imo it was clear that it wasnt aimed at you. But you agreed to the terms. It says clear in the chat. You also got to say your opinion, i even asked for it two times bcs u were so silent but u either didnt react or said "im speecheless". And then u said something with karma rng gods, can i take that serious at that moment? :/
I understand you might have felt a bit meh, but shut down? No, i even asked you to talk but you didnt man
With how the situation was handled after wards you mean ae leaving some stuff out in chat. I dont see any misleading things though? Yes leaving things out is never good, but it didnt mislead anyone... AE always has been honest while organising and did everything public. The only thing he did was leaving a few messages out which werent important for the red line of the story. And now he is trying to mislead people?
For real :/
I suggest we leave the discussion. Im sorry if you felt intimidated or negatively judged in the decision that was made. I hope there will be no grudge in future tourneys and you still deserve your waffles
To all the haters (10 people): try organising somethint big yourself and then come back to me.
I was waiting for everyone to speak first, as I was discussing my opinion I was shutdown, as I repeat.
Devm had vp lead or am i missing something? Means he had factio pick and as always map for g5 gets auto pick. How were you shut down? Ae told devm to shut up as wel and after that he posted as well? Imo the shut down part is not really true, but maybe thats my interpetation...
And unless im missing the fact that u had vp lead i dont see ur point as well on the first part.
The whole community loves u von, i do 2. But i really, really dont get what u are trying to prove?
I was silent because of the way things were being handled, rules were overlooked and overturned, I wanted to say more and was waiting for everyone to give their side of the story but before I could argue or challenge anything I was shutdown and made to agree with the circumstances shown in chat.
Technically speaking, I should of had one choice of faction or map....
No, devm would have had faction pick, and the map would have been auto chosen if there would have been a normal g5 and g4 would have been a normal win for you. You wouldn't have gotten choice of faction or map, that's not true :/
Which rules were overlooked?
Pls you weren't shut down, you could have opened your mouth at any moment von cmon . It's just not true, you could have said anything for at least 10 min. Why are you saying you didn't get the chance? Did you really feel that intimidated by ae bcs he said shut up to all of us? I'm really trying to understand, bcs i just don't see how you can say that you didn't get the chance to say anything? :/
you don't get the opportunity to speak and after that get blamed for not speaking enough...
but yeah, these guys know better than you the way it happened.
proof is, they are doing it again right now with me and the other people respectfully disagreeing.
want proof of how you insult me 10 min ago ?
from AE himself, one hour ago:
guess if i feel offended that's my fault and i deserved it, just like vonivan
VonIvan did get the opportunity to speak wtf? He could have said any thing he wanted at any moment. It's just proper bs that he "didnt even had the time to say anything". You can always say something. Even saying "w8 guys" takes only one second. Setting up the game and consulting all togehter took at least 15 min. So don't say vonivan didn't had the time or the chance to say anything lol.
I didn't insult you, saying you are talking shit isn't insulting. And again, you STILL haven't answered my question. Are you avoiding it bcs you don't have an answer you like on it?
A_E is obviously a bit angry on you. What do you expect? Him doing all the hard work and puting hours in it and you not even playing coh2 but just coming back to "don't speak so nice on the coh2 community site" and saying he is wrong and everything while you don't know "any details at all" about it. Ofc a man would be angry. Don't be such a child dude lol :/
the worst is when vonivan is told to "SHUT THE FUCK UP"
but you can also notice the way all the decision was made entirely between DEVM & AE, even suggesting to DEVM multiple times that he could cancel the next match and easily claim the victory.
i counted how many sentence are from VONIVAN, DEVM and AE in these screenshot :
VONIVAN : 9%
AE : 66%
DEVM :25%
(excluding you from the count to make it easier).
For every 3 sentence made by DEVM, Vonivan had literally the opportunity to make one.
Seems unfair to me, but whatever ...
1. I didn't say "SHIT TALKING", i said "shit talking".
2. I have seen the screen shot, i was in the chat myself, i asked for the things you found so offensive
3. The "shut the fuck up" was to everybody, not only to vonivan. I noticed that and so did devm. AE was allowed to say that if he quickly wants to get EVERYONE silent. You should know all the things some players say to me during tournaments, i never cry about that as well. Like you never said "shut the fuck up" to get somebody silent lol
4. AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE: VonIvan wasn't reactin much during the WHOLE CONVERSATION. Not only at that moment, you can also SEE that in the SCREEN SHOTS. VonIvan was really silent from THE BEGINNING. Just to make that clear, i'm not blaiming you vonivan but it's true
So this is a total bull shit argument as well, see the shit talking i ment?
Nothing unfair here, please come with real arguments and really answer my questions or as i said before don't post dude...
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