Blitz in it's nerfed form gives it only slightly more speed than the IS2 does, and still not nearly as much as allied medium tanks have.
Remember; the IS2 is cheap compared to the KT, you can replace it with out that much effort. A IS2 loss isn't a game loss for the Soviet player, a KT loss absolutely is.
It has only 1 Jackson shots worth of HP more, but the same armor with none of the speed or maneuverability of the IS2. The excellent main gun means nothing if you can't use it.
I agree with nerfed blitz KT can't close the distance hell even before it couldn't now Jacksons just kite him into infinity and penetrate front no problem. Just load AP shells and KT is gone. |
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What about giving the Armor to vet bonuses just remove stupid vet 3 ability and just put the default armor value on it's position instead. This way Allies can stop it even after KT is on the field if all the shortcommings are not enough to combat it. When I played Soviets vs KT before patch I never saw KT as invincible gamechanger I think in 90% of the cases it was L2P issue. Company of Heroes 2 has so many ways to deal with tanks including mines, AT guns, AT nades, stuns with penetration, increase of damage combined with T-34 ram and multiple AT abilities. I mean this game brings so many options to table against King Tiger (and against Heavies in general) that it suprised alot that this nerf came. |
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Would be great! This way one patch could fix almost everything. Just take top 10 players that are not biased and care for game. We were waiting for 6 months and get a meh patch. When can we expect next one? Q4 2016? |
People need to stop arguing that the King Tiger should be borderline useless because it´s non doctrinal. That doesn´t justify it being a bad unit. Actually it makes things even harder. You can´t just no tech into call ins with it, eventually making it even more expensive.
The worst thing is that the IS-2 is more mobile and thus can escape. The King Tiger can´t.
A unit you can´t afford in 80% of the games anyway and which in the other 20% is a total gamble, isn´t a unit that is going to be used.
The King Tiger was hit multiple times with this patch. Jacksons have better penetration, its armor was nerfed and Blitz was nerfed. This was simply too much. A classic Relic mistake.
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Agreed. I think it should get its old armor value back with vet 2.
I dunno why Relic does this mistake like all other companies (Riot, Wargaming, Gaijin) they nerf something that is not OP just becasue comunity asks them to. And then overbuff a unit that was suposed to be underpowered in dealing with the op unit. Therefore making the OP unit underpowered. It lacks any logic! |
It was definitely not. Such bullshit. And it's about winning a match, not killing individual units.
So many opinions from people that have not played both sides.
Exactly using combined arms is not in allied list of tactics I guess. When I played Soviets vs OKW and they got KT by that time I had 2 IS-2s on Vet2 and that is enough to take down anything. Just stun him which IS-2 does perfectly (or just cons nade) and then flank and kill EZ PZ. |
But Germans mustnt have strong tanks! 
It has nothing to do with the fact it's German tank. Look at the teching and actual cost, look at the time this unit arrives on the field. It needs to perform good because of these requirements! I just think that tank which requires this insane amout of resources should perform acordingly to it's cost. |
the KT was overnerfed, it simply is not worth it's fuel cost now.
Agreed it was balanced but Relic sucumbed to the whine of Allies. As it was stated multiple times high teching cost, need all trucks to deploy, high actual cost of the unit and most importantly the timing is 35++ minutes into the game. This unit needs to be really good for all those disadvantages you can't play around just because it requires lots of fuel and if you count in nerfed blitz and slow speed it needs the armor to stay alive. |
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Problem is that Relic doesn't update the game on regular basis now we will probably have to wait half a year for another patch that changes RNG elements. I like your description of problem and ideas to fix this mess Jaedrik. Now CoH2 is really messy and the new patch didn't do nearly enough. |
Volks are not supposed to deal damage but hold the line,dealing damage should be the obers' job.
But now.....
Well it seems OKW is getting botched by "balance". This game gone full League of Legends something is popular = must nerf. |
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