Profile of Vuther

Avatar Area

Offline Unknown SteamID unknown
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1

General Information


Thread: Zis Guns and Pak 40s30 Mar 2015, 02:16 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2015, 02:10 AMturbotortoise Stealing a pak is an axis players worst nightmare And when it enters the dreams of Allies players, they wake up with sticky pants. In: Lobby
Thread: Zis Guns and Pak 40s30 Mar 2015, 01:26 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2015, 01:19 AMThe_rEd_bEar This is a troll thread, I feel like killing my self for reading this Well, I wouldn't go that far...but yeah, the thread apparently believes only IS-2 exists for Soviets in addition to Tigers and Panthers get killed by ZiS-3s nearly instantly and Panthers don't out-range IS-2s. In: Lobby
Thread: MGs are not supposed to kill?30 Mar 2015, 01:19 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2015, 01:16 AMelchino7 This isn't help by veterancy mechanics which gives a longer range to Rnades, even more than the MG range. That's like most of the problem with M2HBs against Wehrmacht right there. Obviously against OKW, the most of the problem is instead Obers. In: Lobby
Thread: MGs are not supposed to kill?30 Mar 2015, 01:01 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2015, 00:49 AMNuclear Arbitor additionally, not all factions have jump troops. SM and orks have them in t1 and chaos and eldar have them in t2 but eldars jump troops are not melee troops. ig doesn't get any. the biggest difference i see between dow2 and coh2 is that setup teams were much more expensive in dow2 than coh2 compared to regular units in that they cost a medium amount of requisition and power where as regular infantry do not cost power. in coh2 regular infantry and suppression teams all cost the same so you can always have an equal amount on the field. it's part of the problem with the maxim and making suppression teams cost more mp would make the mg42 and mg43 easier to balance. Slightly related note, the Elite mod for the game added an "Artillery Spotter" unit for IG I think mostly for the purpose of giving the IG a suppression team counter. They use quick-dropping single mortar shell abilities, the primary one being one that does some damage and knockbacks on a target area with a range that's farther than weapon teams. It costs about the same as a suppression team, I'd imagine because their abilities don't necessarily guarantee a retreat from suppression teams like jumps squads do, another unit will have to take advantage of the suppression team having been forced to re-position. Yeah, that's definitely a big factor in the matter for CoH2. I'd not mind HMGs being more fearsome (and I really want Maxims to be actually useful against blobs), but it's certainly impossible when they cost the same as infantry squads, as we'd go back to HMG spam with its only distinct weakness being "Doesn't have AT ability/weapon", long before major vehicles come out. In: Lobby
Thread: Allied War Machine29 Mar 2015, 17:08 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2015, 16:56 PMEsxile Actually you have less chance to die than seeing anything of those proposal in game. No, I'm pretty sure the precedent of nigh-countless human beings implies the odds of you dying are 100%. In: Lobby
Thread: Allied War Machine29 Mar 2015, 16:44 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2015, 16:41 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf What's Allied War Machine? It was a commander ability from CoH1. In: Lobby
Thread: Allied War Machine29 Mar 2015, 16:34 PM I'd much rather they make USF work against heavies in base tiers without Allied War Machine, which I really don't miss. The ability's not great gameplay and is a contradiction to the veterancy system. In: Lobby
Thread: MGs are not supposed to kill?29 Mar 2015, 16:24 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2015, 07:20 AMNuclear Arbitor jump troops do shit for damage and camping anything on the setup team quickly forced them off. jump troops hard countering setup teams has nothing to do with the high damage and lack of suppression shield. No, that's a very important consideration in the matter. If Y hard-counters X incredibly easily, then X logically is allowed to wreck Z about as hard, which is fine because you should just get a Y when you're having a problem with X. Suppression platforms were pretty much useless against jump melee, and that's why they did way more damage - a specific but easy to do situation would render them personally completely helpless, so they were compensated in the moments that situation did not happen for whatever reason (like, of course, regular melee fending them off cost-effectively). In: Lobby
Thread: MGs are not supposed to kill?29 Mar 2015, 06:59 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2015, 06:50 AMNuclear Arbitor nope. suppression was the counter to melee. the only melee that was a counter to setup teams was jump teams but they didn't do much damage themselves in general, or were glass cannons. That's what I said, ones that literally jumped in. They, of course, were still balanced. Just not necessarily everyone liked every factor in the equation for it (as mentioned, some people disliked the received melee damage penalty on retreating because a melee squad behind your retreating units was goddamn hell, but it was quite necessary to give, say Assault Marines, a real chance to be useful since they really didn't do much damage outside jumping into ranged units, and without the bonus it'd be liable melee in general would be useless against good players that simply retreat their units the moment they see things could go wrong against melee units). In: Lobby
Thread: MGs are not supposed to kill?29 Mar 2015, 04:48 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2015, 02:05 AMNuclear Arbitor having suppression teams deal high damage while suppressing works perfectly fine; look at dow2. everything is more lethal in that game. Well, to be fair, that's probably because DoW2 also had melee assault teams that could literally jump into said suppression teams regardless of those suppression teams' power and then probably wreck the suppression teams super hard because retreating causes units to take more melee damage. Also, I recall a fair amount of players voiced discontent with that latter part so, you know...nuthin's perfect. My guess behind the HMGs' very heavy reliance on being supported in CoH2 is meant to balance out how a unit they suppress will stay suppressed as long as pretty much anything is shooting at it, unlike in CoH1 or DoW2 where after the suppression source leaves, suppressed squads will recover pretty quickly. In: Lobby