I of course was refering to the reinforcement cost of this unit, not the price itself but still 400mp is quite hefty.
Ha ok, I'll adjust my question to: Which elite infantry in the game has a far cheaper reinforcement cost from say 1 model to full health, than the Obers. All my previous questions still apply. |
Being honest this thread is a whine and that's it. Probably the Obers need a slight nerf to their long range DPS but all of the suggestions will send this unit to the oblivion. Please do remember that this unit is very heavy on manpower
Hmmmkay. Please, tell me another elite infantry unit, doctrinal or otherwise that's a lot cheaper than Obers.
Ok, now that you've done that, please tell me which, if any, of those units you thought of (cheaper ones, and similar priced), that can consistently stand up to Obers (by consistently, I mean not situational). |
Yeah, you forgot the OKW fuel income in your analysis, smart guy. That 295 fuel is accumulating much harder, and YOU KNOW IT. Further, according to your figures, the fuel investment for paras and shocks is the lowest, so is the manpower.
I played alot the beta and seems that is going to implement some adequate changes. So all your allied whiners shut your pieholes and L2P. Don't influence a game that is going to be fixed.
Go T3 muni>fuel. Problem solved. Smart guy. |
That is also one of the highest resource investments in the game. L2P.
Obers(400mp+0mun+0fu)+Panther(490mp+0mun+175fu)+ T2/T3(200mp+0mun+40fu)+ T4(200mp+0mun+80fu)=
1290mp - 0mun - 295fu
PnzGrens[no lmg](340mp+0mun+0fu)+Panther(490mp+0mun+175fu)+ T1(80mp+0mun+10fu)+ T2(120mp+0mun+15fu)+ T4(160mp+0mun+30fu)+ tech costs(600mp+0mun+160fu)=
1790mp - 0mun - 390fu
Shocks[no lmg](440mp+0mun+0fu)+T34/76(310mp+0mun+100fu)+ T2(160mp+0mun+50fu)+ T3(240mp+0mun+120fu)=
1150mp - 0mun - 270fu
Paras(380mp+120mun+0fu)+M36(260mp+0mun+125fu)+ Lieutenant(200mp+0mun+50fu)+ Major(240mp+0mun+90fu)=
1080mp - 120mun - 265fu
Hmmm, yeah, one of the biggest investments in the game. Anyone wanna breakdown the DPS per point of MP/fu and the penetration per point of MP/fu?
L2p indeed. Lolz. |
Okw have mainly 4 men squads and weapon teams that take long to reinforce , a resource penalty (except it's not really, because teching is so cheap) and yet expensive units. For that they get the hardest hitting units + vet 5 + non doctrinal super heavy, a tech structure that can lock down a good portion of the map, free grenade tech, free lmgs on non doctrinal elite infantry, a mobile suppression unit and the cheapest, yet best scaling core infantry in the game .
Corrected in bold.
Also, Obers and Panthers together beat any inf/medium non doctrinal tank combination in the game hands down. OKW players don't need mediums that hurt infantry and tanks. |
Yup but my ISP claims it would be done by October 6th, which is 17-18 days ago.
I know, all the sources say Oct 6th, but it's clearly not the case. They've found 2 breaks so far, who's to say there aren't more? You'll have to keep on to your ISP. |
AFAIK, there are ongoing maintenance problems between SEA and the US, due to a broken cable on the sea floor:
http://thenextweb.com/asia/2014/09/17/internet-speeds-across-southeast-asia-crash-yet-another-undersea-cable-breaks/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia-America_Gateway
You can't blame relic for this one. The problems still persist. |
Yea, and while there at it they can add other overpriced units with no value well, Perhaps an IS-3 Call in where you have to use WASD for movement and attack ground to aim.
Why are we trying to make the game more convoluted for new players? inb4 "my isu-152 / jagdtiger wont attack" posts.
And they'll all be told the same thing: "You need to use skill and micro for these powerful units, not anybody can just pick them up and destroy everything". |
Damn that's a shame, I'll just have to wait for the upload then.
I hope you guys do it soon though, as there is only a week left until the next patch, and there might not be time to watch the game.
It's going to be a long one, considering how easy it is to give the axis a headache or even win. |
Please play it in the beta as allies have been buffed, so they are extra OP now, and I'll also be able to come watch it live. |