"ISU not OP just flank it" - give me a break, no allied fanboy wants to mention the mines + Guards + button + zis + maxim + Bomb drop combo that goes with any ISU.
"You have the jadg or elephant they are the exact same, if you nerf the ISU you got to neft them" - As it has been stated already the only thing that the ISU has in common with these units is that they all have long range.
"Use paks you noob!" - do I really need to explain why this is not anyway viable!
It is always the same rhetoric from 4-5 allied fanboys with Katitof leading the possie.
Look I play 2v2s mainly, I play allies and axis equally and Soviets believe it or not are my fav faction! But there is an UNDENIABLE issue with the ISU, it is over performing, that is a fact. It has only a single reliable counter, the JT. Without that, GG against any decent player. Any unit that has only a single reliable counter is OP period.
The JT gets insta shock once hit, and has zero AI capabilities, same goes for the elephant (w/o shock).
The ISU needs to be brought in line , either make it an AI unit with its current damage output to inf with the same AT damage as the brumbar. OR have it do the current AT damage with severely decreased AI damage output. It cant continue to be a counter to EVERYTHING (except JT). Remeber the Tiger Ace when it first came out? Same situation.
People who say the ISU cannot be flanked because there is support are forgetting something...you have your own support units too!!! In fact, Axis have better AT troops than Soviets. Schrecks do so much more damage than PTRS!! ISU will hurt you a lot if you attack it from the front and then stall your attack. The ISU does not have very strong armor; it is almost the definition of glass cannon. Use your troops to screen your AT and don't bunch up your men. As you are doing that, move your heavy armor up or flank the ISU with faster tanks.
1. ISU will turn to fight your flankers or stay and shoot your infantry
2. Infantry can get off some schreck volleys and damage ISU
3. Flanking armor can get in some shots off versus ISU
4. Sneak in some AT guns or heavy tanks to blast it from the front
5. Dead ISU or retreating ISU