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Jump back to quoted post29 Jul 2016, 20:23 PMelchino7

Why did you put Shocktroops ?


I'll repeat myself, the whole point of the thread is not to discuss the T3485 perf vs cost, rather the indirect buff it received through the MG T34-76 buff.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jul 2016, 00:07 AMeasierwithaturret

This doesn't make sense, the reason the 85 is more popular than other doctrinal units is because it is a generalist unit that fills a key role and is useful in all situations, rather than a niche unit limited to specific situations. The over-reliance on doctrinal units was largely fixed by making stock options better or more accessible, not by nerfing doctrinal units back to irrelevance.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jul 2016, 00:07 AMeasierwithaturret

Wasn't the last ESL tournament prior to the patch, i.e. when the t34/76 was useless? It's hardly surprising that the majority of players will choose a doctrine with a decent medium in it, given that that is a critical capability the faction otherwise just doesn't have. Even after the MG buff that still applies - people pick the t34/85 doctrines because it provides a versatile workhorse medium, something which every other faction has without needing to choose a doctrine.

Anyway I don't see this discussion going anywhere new. After the MG buff it seems reasonable for a very slight cost increase as per the OP's suggestion, but anything more than that would be overkill. Comparisons with the p4 have some use but aren't suitable for drawing strong conclusions because there are just too many differences between the two. If you think the p4 is underperforming then that is a matter for another thread, although on second thoughts perhaps not because that discussion has already been done to death.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jul 2016, 22:10 PMLongshot_Cobra

Again how is the t34/85 too cheap for what it is and what it does?
This thread has lasted longer than it should, we can all agree that the way tanks and tech building with soviets is mostly balanced, there is no need for changes anymore.
This faction problem is how things are handled in infantry and how conscripts are designed.

If you think Panzer 4 is too expensive, this is another subject, it may be right.
t34/85 for 380/130fuel is not TOO CHEAP, be serious here how is it cheap?

Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2016, 13:05 PMpigsoup

think all allied medium tanks are just a bit to way over the top.