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Both have 42 sight at vet 0 now and 50 sight range at vet 2. The AEC only has 40 weapon range so it's always self spotting to begin with. The Puma with 50 weapon range only gets self spotting at vet 2 now. The only reason the AEC is worse at AT is because of said lower weapon range, but given what it goes up against (251, 222, 251/17, 221/223 and Luchs) that hardly matters.

I thought they both had 50 sights. Puma otoh has 50 sights + 50 range.

1. Its a common misconception that so called "side-grades" are costing something extra. Its not a vCoH where side grades were effectively delaying you and vere an optional chose, like bars\grens for USF. It was said countless of times, even by dev team, that USF\UKF "sidegrades" are contributing towards final cost of tech and serve as a balancer. In other words if you skip all your sidegrades and go towards final tier rushing it will be more or less cheaper for the other factions.

Also speaking of being agressive. Sure they are not rifles, but at the same time Grenadiers are not offensive aswell, because they are long range inf. You dont have to run and gun with them, because even at range they are killing shit really fast anyway.

3. Well amd AEC still has better AI via MGs then puma + what Sander said. But its not the point. What you are suggesting is to create jack of all trades. AEC already hardcounters all LVs but Puma and can support figting mediums and you are suggesting giving it AI close to the arguably second strongest AI LV. Like come on.

5. Because UKF already somewhat can dominate OKW early on, if not due to SPs/occasional Kubel harrasment and later on JLI\221. Giving UKF sniper will instantly allow UKF to hardcounter units like SPs and damage kubel really bad, while pre-upgrade volks dont even have slightest chance against tommies in cover, let alone supported by Sniper.

1. I'd not go far with side-techs, since itslef will be a thread worthy lenght talk. However, when zi said it's not offensive, as I've mentioned it's because of their cover bonus + they tend to gain less dps from short range than others.

3. Yes I can see that buffing AEC might cause trouble if it goes with other buffs. But TbH current UkF status + AEC buff won't harm balance at all. Yes AEC counters 222, halftrack. Even T-70 counters it. AEC deals better against Luchs. The only difference is that AEC has better chance against Puma. But hey, their mainline inf don't have snare. That's a big one.
I won't call Stuart second best, We got T-70 & Luchs prior to it.

5. We are already living a world with OST early sniper. Yes it requires building to be built so UKF sniper will come few secs earlier. Other then that, what you mentioned are something USF & UKF already dealing with at early game.

If you straight up buff Brits like this you can just delete OKW from the game, cause no one is going to play them in 1vs1 (or quits the game when he spawns opposite to the brit). And even then you still have a rough time vs Ost cause you cant break defensive positions without any sort of indirect/rocket arty.

I'm on positive side on buffing OKW on 1v1 (in the way to minimize impact on 3v3/4v4), stating this first;

currently OKW has highest WR over UKF on 1v1 (https://coh2stats.com/stats/month/1619827200/1v1/wermacht?statsSource=top200). Majorly because

1. UKF can do nothing against JLI.
2. Just delaying the game to the late game; There comes free win for OKW.

Problem of OKW is against Soviet. Not against UKF.

1) Caches
2) Map designes
3) Concentration of whole army in one place
4) Tech rushes
5) Reliance on teammate to fill the holes
6) Overall forgivness

7. Stock army has everything. (No need for commander to pick rocket arty)

Should we also buff OKW then to make them 50% in 1v1 ignoring the fact that they perform much better in teamgames

Actually, yes we need to buff volks late game performance as well as some rebalancing (including timing nerfs on walking stuka!) to balance team games.

Of course, that being said, the most urgent needed buff would be for UKF, but I guess not much people have interest in it.

If anything the only way to balance teamgame - balance mechanics to soften the difference between 1v1 and 4v4. Like for instance limiting howis to 1 or doing something with caches.

1. Rebuild map - This is what Starcraft1 & 2 used to do to punish Terran for their raw power.
Currently, their is so many lane map that base is far from the conflict zone & takes much time to retreat and get back & path is very limited.
I don't see why maps are designed to be in favor of Axis, when they are indeed at the strong position.

2. Change timing of the units - this would be a good example. Does not hurt 1v1, but helps balancing team game.

3. Change raw stat of some units that are only used in team games. - Not my taste TBH, because I don't think they are major issue here, but this is at least another option to balance team game w/o affecting 1v1.

4. Commander Rebuild - Yes, the patch is otw, 1v1 / 2v2 / 3v3+4v4 has different commander favor, so this is another option.

I have throne nades on squads that never moved and lived. Does not sound like its denying anything.

But you have to agree OKW is the worst no matter what your counter argument is.

Are we talking about OKW in 1v1 or 3v3/4v4?

Because when I last checked, OKW had huge margin advantage in WR on 3v3/4v4.