Profile of austerlitz

1) Schreks blob will be back

2)Hell yeah Rush JPIV or Panther before allies player get anything near as armor

3)Hell yeah vet 5 units in mid game, i agree only on certains units, Obers are easy to vet up, you just need to micro them a bit to not let them die

4) this option sounds sexy af but it only give boost to one unit, so it promote only playing this unit, quite hard to balance this, i mean why sturmpios, obers and others units can't get it, but if they get it, it will be overpowerd, you see the catch ?

How will they be back?Volks vet got hard nerf.

And how do you do that with 66% manpower and survive?

Vet 5 units in mid game?Lolz.Vet is currently an excuse for penalties on OKW,serves little actual purpose.If vet5 is not meant to be used in competitive games why bother with feature with such high penalties to pay for it?

Essentially you want to change nothing,a small band aid scraps perhaps which won't do this faction any good.

http://www.coh2.org/topic/43759/okw-faction-design-failure

In that thread i thought removing OKW penalties ,vet 5 and some tech changes would lead to rejuvenate this faction by converting it to regular faction.

But since relic is probably not going to change 'theme' thing another possible solution -

1.Remove munition penalty(german industry was producing all time high in 1944-they lacked fuel and manpower,not ammo)

2.Allow choice of toggle between Manpower penalty and Fuel penalty at 66% income.This will eliminate manpower float and give some relief to fuel starvation.Player skill will be needed to toggle according to needs(too much fuel emphasis and end up like poor man's version of industry)

3.Reduce Veterancy requirements accross the baord by 25%.Thus actually making more high vet units possible in competitive games .Right now this feature in marginal,but actually serves as an argument for the crippling resource penalties.

4.Give volks a defensive upgrade or ability like 'For the fatherland'.Active for 15 seconds or so.Only useable in freindly territory and thus defensively.This would allow volks to survive allied infantry blobs early and midgame without being totally wiped out until they can accumulate vet.It would not help volk spam as such as it would only be defensive ability applicable in your own territory.
Other option is mp44 which is controversial.
Obers 360 mp.

I think these changes will allow relic to Keep the 'theme' of the faction while making it much more effective.Especially vet requirement reduction and toggle between manpower and fuel should be considered.

Months gone and still no solution to duplicates.My last 5 war spoils commaders have been duplicates.

OKW can't continue like this..relic really needs to act.'Theme' went too much into their heads.

30 mp reinforce.
Can't fire on move.
4 man asking to be wiped.
Poor poor mid-late game survivability due to vet bonus disparity.
Can't fight well except in cover,can't build cover.
Fausts no longer the same utility.


I find this unit is just too lacklustre to be much good anymore.With wehrmacht ur better off relying on osttruppen or pzgrens.Overall bad state of wehrmacht infantry particularly lategame.
Still i'm often told how its a 'fantastic' versatile unit with superb scaling .

Just me or other wehrmacht players get the feeling too that grenadiers are just poor now?