Scott in LT or CP as the OKW Walking stuka.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 11:36 AMRiley

This is not a risk at all. This is a great advantage of the fraction, which allows you to call such a powerful artillery so early.

"is also not a universal or even valid argument" Of course, when you are a fan of OKW, this is not an argument. And if you care about balance, this is a fair claim. The USF should get a calliope outside the doctrine, or get a Scott as early as possible. Let the USF also put itself at risk. Risk giving a lot of reward.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 11:39 AMKatitof

What Sander is saying and you clearly didn't understood is, if you go for early stuka and they won't pay off, you'll just get steamrolled by med armor and you'll have be up to 300 fuel behind with armored response.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 11:46 AMRiley

I saw how early walking stuka pays off in a tournament. Why are you writing your opinion? The tournament showed everything, your opinion doesn’t matter now. Experienced players can use this advantage. And if this is such a bad idea, why not transfer the walking stuka to T3?

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 11:36 AMRiley

This is not a risk at all. This is a great advantage of the fraction, which allows you to call such a powerful artillery so early.

"is also not a universal or even valid argument" Of course, when you are a fan of OKW, this is not an argument. And if you care about balance, this is a fair claim. The USF should get a calliope outside the doctrine, or get a Scott as early as possible. Let the USF also put itself at risk. Risk giving a lot of reward.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 11:46 AMRiley

It seems to me that just people know that it's cool to have such a walking stuka. And talking about risk is just an excuse and is done to distract attention.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 13:53 PMSander93

I'm sorry but do you have any idea what you're talking about at all? Early Stukas are a risk because they severely delay the arrival of armor because of their high fuel cost. The reason early Stukas were meta is because they could be followed up with the techless Command Panther at 225 fuel to counter Allied medium and heavy tanks that started arriving (in numbers) around the same time. Now with the Command Panther getting tied to tech, the earliest available vehicle would be a Jagdpanzer at 270 fuel, at which point the Allies can have up to 3 medium tanks already.


Again, I'm sorry to be blunt, but it seems to me that you have no idea how the game and its inner economic and gameplay mechanics or faction designs actually work.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 13:53 PMSander93

We don't put a unit in a certain place in faction A just because faction B has a similar unit in a certain place. There'd need to be way better arguments for that.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 14:56 PMRiley

A very tricky maneuver. If now an early walking stukas is a bad idea, why are you so opposed to being moved this to t3 ? So this still has an advantage, right? I directly feel the concern of the OKW fan.

There is not a single reason that the OKW had powerful artillery so early.



You said the same thing when OKW and Ostheer used to have an early tigers, and the Allies also demanded pershing and IS2 was also early? Oh, you probably miss those times.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 14:56 PMRiley

You said the same thing when OKW and Ostheer used to have an early tigers, and the Allies also demanded pershing and IS2 was also early? Oh, you probably miss those times.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 15:37 PMinsaneHoshi

Scotts unlike Stukas, actually perform decently well against light vehicles. It coming at t3 would mean it would counter pretty much everything.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 16:19 PMRiley

How biased and not objective are the players okw. Really? Does Scott cause sudden damage to static vehicles like a stuka? Still with that range? Answer this question pls.

Tell this to VonIvan, who lost his stuart from firing a stukas when the stuart had almost 70% health. It was in the Masters Cup. What do you say to that? Could Scott do that? Do you want me to send you this video?

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 16:18 PMdistrofio

Want scotts in T3? Fine, nerf them to oblivion.

Jokes aside, they are absolute beasts, fast, deadly, versatile. They have auto attack, can barrage on the move. You all know this.

I feel OP wants to mimic OKM into USF and thats the wrong way to start balance discussions, anyway take this advice if you will, wstukas are still controversial, making a 'balance' thread copying the 'unbalanced' aspect of wstukas will result in 2 unbalanced units.

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 16:24 PMRiley

And what is your rank? I want to know which player is telling me this. Your words do not coincide with reality, in the tournament I hardly saw Scott, but in almost every fight I saw a stuka.

Oh, maybe you play with stronger players than players in the Masters Cup?

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 16:26 PMdistrofio

Oh the irony...

Well, good luck in your selfish rant against a topic no one has trouble with...

Dont worry, only you saw what you saw in that tournament, other people perspective is just trash compared to yours...

Edit: sadly its a L2P issue you dont know how to avoid a single wstuka barrage

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 16:38 PMBananenheld

You got it! Everybody is a weeraaaboooo

Safe the freedom, we need personalitys like you, who stand up against facist devs and mods!

Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2019, 16:38 PMBananenheld

You got it! Everybody is a weeraaaboooo

Safe the freedom, we need personalitys like you, who stand up against facist devs and mods!