Guards grenades vs MG42 in building? no damage

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 09:04 AMBabaRoga

It means that If you play enough time, chances are you would miss 100 times with unit that has 5% chance to miss.....

Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2013, 11:43 AMBabaRoga

Throwing R guard nade at MG42, 5-6 separate occasions did just about nothing to mg42 in the building.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 09:09 AMNullist

Wat. No idea what you are saying here.

The only RNG element involved with Nades, is this one:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdEpuSHcxNko1VGVFYjczYXpFZWhqOHc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=12

Which states that only on models that have <50% you have a 10% chance for a kill crit.



If 5-6 Nades did "just about nothing" then you must have thrown them somewhere that they did not hit the MG42 models. Has nothing to do with RNG, only with placement.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 08:33 AMMarcus2389

Guys stop taking it personal and go back on topic.

The answer to your question are two: one, you have to aim exactly at the window where the enemy is shooting at you or you will cause barely no damage (even more than in COH, where it wasn't necessary to aim the exact window) and two, unlike COH1 latest patch, in COH2 grenaders can miss, doing pretty much no damage, even if visually you see them hitting the enemy. It depends from the distance at which you throw the grenade, you can see this more times on rifle grenades of Grenadiers when they shoot from max distance, but it happens also to Guards and Shock Troops grenades.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 10:05 AMNullist

You must be throwing them in the wrong place.

No RNG involved there.

Only RNG factor is the 10% chance to kill crit a model with <50% hp, which isnt relevant to the scenario you described.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 10:10 AMBabaRoga

So, there is 100% accuracy when throwing Nade? It will land exactly, where intended 10 out of 10 times?

I have thrown hundreds and hundreds of nades, it doesn't seem to be so......

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 11:09 AMNullist

Terrain permitting, the Nade lands where you throw it, yes.

To my knowledge there is no RNG involved in where a Nade lands.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2013, 17:32 PMtimujin.il

to day i was lucky and my guards nade took down entire building with 3 men squad mg.

so no, there is no bug.

also i noticed that if the house lost 2 corners even if its high on health if you throw the nade on the third corner there is a big chance bringing the entire house down.

more over in general nades are not a good way of getting inf out of houses. i usually place an inf squad in the house and just sitting through any grenades utill 1 man left, it is a good way to make your opponent to waste ammunition.
unless in strategically critical moments nading a buildning is mostly useful if you have enough fire power to annihilate the exiting squad. then it is cost effective.

Jump back to quoted post6 Oct 2013, 08:33 AMMarcus2389

unlike COH1 latest patch, in COH2 grenaders can miss, doing pretty much no damage, even if visually you see them hitting the enemy. It depends from the distance at which you throw the grenade, you can see this more times on rifle grenades of Grenadiers when they shoot from max distance, but it happens also to Guards and Shock Troops grenades.