Pathfinders need a nerf don't they?

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 15:48 PMIncendiaryRounds

But they get even more sight than pios at vet 1. And pios are hardly capable fighting units. Avoiding mgs and being able to fight at long range reduces bleed which offsets high reinforcement. I don't think I'd change any raw stats but the extra sight at vet 1 should be moved to vet 2, or grant a larger sight boost at vet 3.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 17:38 PMddd

Its funny that back when PF were 1cp nobody would ever suggest that they are overperforming or even performing good at all. Last patch they were dropped to 0cp because literally nobody was building them and now we hear stories about maphacking Pathfinder blobs that obliterate everything in their way. After i saw some high level players use this strategy and fail miserably (vonivan, luvnest for example) i think the only eplanation as to why some people are struggling against pathfinders spam is because they are being outplayed by their opponent. And comparinig pathfinders to jaegers is just comical, its hard to not take it as trolling.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 16:49 PMTobis

Pathfinders are mediocre. They need a rework like JLI without making them bonkers OP.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 15:48 PMIncendiaryRounds

But they get even more sight than pios at vet 1. And pios are hardly capable fighting units. Avoiding mgs and being able to fight at long range reduces bleed which offsets high reinforcement. I don't think I'd change any raw stats but the extra sight at vet 1 should be moved to vet 2, or grant a larger sight boost at vet 3.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 22:01 PMCresc

I know it's a scouting unit! so is the sniper, scout car or t70 and they don't just "spot" units at miles distance

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 21:58 PMaerafield

Pathfinders are fine IMO and not OP at all. The only thing which is debatable is the insane sight range so they can spot HMGs long before entering the MG's arc of fire... but that would have to be addressed on JLI's and Pyrotechnical Inf sections as well.

Whenever I saw someone crying about Pathfinder spam being a broken strat on stream, it was someone who tried to counter them with HMGs. If you just get a good amount of inf yourself and use cover with them, the Pathfinders can't do jackshit.

The scoped M1 Garand Rifle has a terrible performance vs any sort of cover.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 22:22 PMSander93

Pathfinders have the same default 50 view range that all scout units have. Like the M3 Scout Car, JLI, M20, Puma or the 222. Snipers have 45 default sight range because otherwise they'd be able to self spot at max distance from the get go.

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2019, 00:46 AMCresc

Then this is definitely a bug.
Try this out.
On vilshanka, have an hmg cover the south cutoff, and get a pathfinder in green cover on near the church.

You will spot that hmg through the fog, this is intended?

Jump back to quoted post30 Jan 2019, 00:56 AMShadowLinkX37

Can you take some screenshots so people know exactly what you mean?

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 22:50 PMShadowLinkX37

I hear BARs on them are quite good, even potentially requiring a nerf, but I use them without the BARs and the damage they deal is largely mediocre. I think it'd be good if we had some tests done with paths both with and without BARs to see if that needs changing as well.

Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2019, 22:50 PMShadowLinkX37

I hear BARs on them are quite good, even potentially requiring a nerf, but I use them without the BARs and the damage they deal is largely mediocre. I think it'd be good if we had some tests done with paths both with and without BARs to see if that needs changing as well.