any good reason to pay 90ammunition shot? (USF - Pershing)

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2018, 16:45 PMVipper

Just to clarify:
Pershing HVAP can not hit via accuracy. It can only hit via collision.

The difference are
HVAP Damage 240 AOE 6 Penetration 400/350/300 deflection damage 80
Normal Damage 160 AOE 4 Penetration 260/240/220

The HVAP is far superior, worth 90 mu? not sure.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2018, 16:54 PMTaksin02

yeah but compared to firefly rocket?
50mu (upgrade ) 80mu to shoot
each rocket does 120 (x2= 240) + stun effect? (stun or blind i'm not sure)
and you can instantly shoot rocket after the maingun

I find this not worth for 90mu. like the old zis-3 barrage 60mu (now it's cost 35 )

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2018, 17:37 PMVipper

FF rockets
damage 120 penetration 1.000 AOE 2

damage multiplier vs infantry 0.33.

Now keep in mind that the FF fire much slower its main gun.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2018, 18:25 PMTaksin02

wait .. 120 per rocket or both does 120?

overall I'm talking about how hard to use this ability

reload time from normalshot + shell traveling time + moving target
it's hard to know when it gonna shoot

I don't know maybe I need to train more to use it

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2018, 18:29 PMVipper

120 per rocket.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 00:14 AMJae For Jett

Isn't that the pre-nerf value? Or did tulips actually have insane damage before the nerf...?

Anyway, I think OP's suggestion would mostly be a nerf. The extra range and lack of scatter are pretty huge; unless he's suggesting that those also be preserved, but that would make the ability pretty awkward imo. Assuming its targeted but lacks scatter, it would give the pershing a single, super accurate shot to wipe infantry with, which I dont think it needs, and I don't think would be good for the game.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 00:14 AMJae For Jett

Isn't that the pre-nerf value? Or did tulips actually have insane damage before the nerf...?
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Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 01:25 AMStug life

240 damage x tulip before nerf now add the 200 base shoot , and they even said it was not op lol

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2018, 16:54 PMTaksin02

yeah but compared to firefly rocket?
50mu (upgrade ) 80mu to shoot
each rocket does 120 (x2= 240) + stun effect? (stun or blind i'm not sure)
and you can instantly shoot rocket after the maingun

I find this not worth for 90mu. like the old zis-3 barrage 60mu (now it's cost 35 )

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 02:48 AMVipper

The damage of tulip was not changed the bonus damage was changed.

FF can kill a medium in 2 shots if both tulip land.

Also for a very strange reason has the long medium range than both Elephant and JT.

"Sherman Firefly
To preserve the Firefly's role as a long range, accurate tank destroyer while making the vehicle less potent at hunting down and killing enemy tanks on the move, the following changes have been made:

Accuracy from 0.08/0.07/0.05 to 0.06/0.05/0.04
Moving accuracy from 0.75 to 0.55
Tulip rockets no longer cancels move commands of the vehicle it hits
Tulip rocket damage against infantry to 33%
Veterancy 3 damage bonus from 80 to 40"

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 18:15 PMStark

It's fine. Thanks to that ability you can make 2 shots instantly, great damage, always penetrates. 60 ammo would make it too spammable.

Don;t compare it to tulip rockets becouse it has diffrent role.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 18:29 PMMr.Flush

You can't double tap with this ability anymore. The ability is alright but way to expensive for what it does.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 21:08 PMStark

haven't used it after patch. I thought it works as it used to. If not then yeah it's too expensive

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 21:34 PMJae For Jett

Theres around a 4 second delay now, so its delayed but still faster than firing off two regular shots.

Jump back to quoted post18 Mar 2018, 21:38 PMStug life

yea but 90 is too expensive