Your worst losses.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 15:00 PMSkysTheLimit

The reason Armor company can replace "top tier tanks" is because the US top tier is absolute trash, unlike axis counterparts. And it's only the m10s that are great, the Dozer is wicked unreliable.

Call-in meta is a problem on both sides, only a very biased player would suggest otherwise. Mechanized Assault was one of the biggest call-in offenders before Stug-E nerf.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 07:43 AMjagd wölfe

And it's not like 90% of call ins are allies.

Like "shit i couldn't even think about a balanced build order and i fucked up, here let me call in sherman/m10/bulldozer as instant counter.l so i can also nullify any hard fought fuel advantage with tech dodging.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 15:27 PMTobis

There is no call-in sherman....

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 15:44 PMTobis

RIP. Thought you were talking about USF.

Anyways, I don't know how you can complain about the m10/bulldozer to skip teching and ignore the Cmd Panther/Ostwind. The ostwind even comes in a not shitty commander with other useful things. The call-in meta is bad on all sides.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 15:56 PMjagd wölfe

There is not a single thing bad in armored company.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 16:56 PMjagd wölfe

And even there...a situational ability not necessary shit.
Get m20, get RE, replace RE with vehicles crews, get paratrooper thompson for the crew, 18.56 near dps each one for a total of 4 thompson litterally copypaste of para
At vet 3 they go from 1 RA to 0.7 RA.

All for 200 mp and 90 muni.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 16:58 PM__deleted__

And 35mp reinforcement cost. No thanks. I´m playing a Manpower starved faction after all.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 16:56 PMjagd wölfe

And even there...a situational ability not necessary shit.
Get m20, get RE, replace RE with vehicles crews, get paratrooper thompson for the crew, 18.56 near dps each one for a total of 4 thompson litterally copypaste of para
At vet 3 they go from 1 RA to 0.7 RA.

All for 200 mp and 90 muni, more efficient than assault engineers.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 19:16 PMOutsider_Sidaroth

You can't do that because the M20 crew comes with a Bazooka, that locks the Thompson Upgrade.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 18:07 PM__deleted__

I used it some times. It never worked for me they only bleed mp

Only occasion when I've found it useful was to rush pak with Stuart, flank it and let crew to finish the job

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 19:32 PMjagd wölfe

There are several applications, only issue is starting bad RA, which gets irrelevant as the unit is used as flanking unit to get weapon crews, or catch retreating units with their good dps, or with smoke.
They are situational indeed, but not "bad" because of that.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 19:54 PM__deleted__

but they fall into a same category as radio silencio or scavenge

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 20:08 PMjagd wölfe

Radio silence does nothing but conceal your units in a map nobody ever uses but imperial dane when casting.
Situational, indeed, not a useless muni sink.

Scarvenge is simply good with everything useful, i have it among my three doctrines like i have heavy cav in usf and mobile defense in ukf, but it can give you any at power at all.
The problem would be if scarvenge had a stug g call in for example.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 20:10 PM__deleted__

I meants the thorough salvage ability. My bad

Anyway, I think we´ve agreed on everything, laughed a bit on my meme and not it´s time to go back to topic

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 15:10 PMjagd wölfe

UNLESS the best ai medium with cromwell armor, 120 average pen and pintle for only 110 fuel and the best kiting tank destroyer in game, with turret and 0.75 moving accuracy, with 220 pen AND pen rounds ability and 200 damage for 125 fuel is bad, somehow....

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2017, 11:37 AMjagd wölfe

Maybe it's worth noting that only allies have call ins that can effectively dodge teching ?

Still need to find the match where ost relied on puma/command pnz/stug E whole match and didn't get a stug.

Armored company call in and m4 sherman can EFFECTIVELY replace top tier tanks.

That's the big problem here, not call in, but call ins that can avoid teching.

Quite a difference isn't it ?

Like i said, only axis call in that can eventually let players skip teching is command panther, but okw player can call only one, and won't benefit other armor with aura.so you basically get a worse panther than normal roster with useless bonus that won't benefit anything (except puma).

Protip: that's why modders decided for a non teching fuel penalties for such call ins before relic saved such crap