faction mixing

Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2017, 14:13 PMFinndeed

British and American forces historically fought together. Would you be okay for UKF and USF to be on the same team?

Also both axis factions are German, would that also break immersion?

Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2017, 19:33 PMZombiFrancis

There was one instance in ww2 where German forces fought German forces. Battle of Castle Itter. Fascinating story.

I think it'd be possible to have soviets v usf/ukf without too much hand waving.

But frankly, until theres balance between axis and allied team makeups, mixed/mirror matches just seem superfluous.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jun 2017, 14:13 PMFinndeed

British and American forces historically fought together. Would you be okay for UKF and USF to be on the same team?

Also both axis factions are German, would that also break immersion?

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 00:56 AMGenMe

I don't mind allied V axis, any mix is OK, obviously I would rather allied armies consisted of either western allies or Russians separately, but that's probably asking too much, one can dream, but separating axis and allies via a choice I don't thinks thats much to ask.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 08:51 AMferwiner

Hey, but then you are requesting something that is already in the game for a very long time

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 15:31 PMDanielD

Why not just host your own game? Also, can't you tell from the public games list whether people are mixing factions?

Why aren't bigger games feasible in automatch? This thread confuses me.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 00:48 AMGenMe

its almost as bad as removing swearing from the in game chat, which was an insult to the intelligence of the player base, like we are a bunch of triggered gender fluid idiots in need of a safe space, it was pretty pathetic at best

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 16:02 PMferwiner

I guess he probably plays only with some mod so he can't play automatch. Still there are options that don't require asking relic for changes (that is a doomed couse).

@OP You can either host your own games like DanielD says above or ask the creator of the mod you usually play if he can do something about it. As I said, relic should be the option of last hope becouse they are very unlikely to do any changes to public games.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 19:24 PMHighfiveeeee

Do we play the same game? I rarely have a game without either the winner or the loser (or both) swearing in the end of the game.
So the implementation of a filter was somehow justified.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2017, 02:42 AMGenMe

this isn't that confusing, I do play auto match exclusively at the moment but only 1v1, I don't use mods, if I play automatch team games is faction mixing disabled then? I have tried hosting team games but its hard to get players, I would simply like the option to join games, even if I check the factions in a game, i can be in there waiting 20 minutes and then some guy joins and mixes factions so im back to square one and have to leave, if faction mixing was disabled I would see that the server itself doesn't want it before joining.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2017, 02:42 AMGenMe

this isn't that confusing, I do play auto match exclusively at the moment but only 1v1, I don't use mods, if I play automatch team games is faction mixing disabled then? I have tried hosting team games but its hard to get players, I would simply like the option to join games, even if I check the factions in a game, i can be in there waiting 20 minutes and then some guy joins and mixes factions so im back to square one and have to leave, if faction mixing was disabled I would see that the server itself doesn't want it before joining.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jun 2017, 09:20 AMferwiner

If you play automatch team games then you can only play axis vs allies. So in the sense that I understand this thread there is no faction mixing. It is also impossible to use mods in automatch but if you don't mean to use them there is no reason to go for hosted games.

In hosted games there are no rules like that, everything is allowed: playing with mods, teams consisting of allies and axis at the same time, stupid anime skins and so on. As long as you don't need to use any of these features don't go into that swamp.

There is one thing to add: in automatch there is a bug that very rarely, but still, allows for faction mixing. Its not seen very often but if you do see it then mind that it doesn't mean faction mixing is allowed, its the bug abuse.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jun 2017, 19:24 PMHighfiveeeee

Do we play the same game? I rarely have a game without either the winner or the loser (or both) swearing in the end of the game.
So the implementation of a filter was somehow justified.

Jump back to quoted post21 May 2017, 02:06 AMGenMe

I just feel this is a historical game or at least throws a nod that way, faction mixing throws it into fiction to the extent you might as well be playing DOW, its just a pointless implementation and sort of ruins the fun WW2 feel for me, I dont even like the soviet western armies mix, but im never going to get away with that one .. maybe the player base may have been bigger with at least a tick box, my whole clan might have only been 20 players, but faction mixing lost the whole clan in a vote because we came from the game Blitzkrieg and all of them loved the history.

Jump back to quoted post21 May 2017, 02:11 AMGenMe

in my humble opinion you don't help the player base by removing features from the game or implementing bad ones.

Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2017, 07:49 AMnee

But it's hardly a historical game.
You can always just organize a team together and agree not to play certain factions. Most of the time random people join my lobby and ask if it's OK to play as Ostheer when it's clear the other side are Axis and we're doing Allies. If you have a problem with that then you should just say Allies please.

I doubt the player base would expand if even more constraints are added to the game. That's kind of like saying well if I beat my wife a lot more then maybe she'll like me better.

And in my humble opinion, not being able to play with Allies as Axis (as was the case in CoH1) was an example of the lack of a feature and the implementation of a bad one.

There are ways to play without faction mixing, in fact I don't find it common enough in this game. Most players I come across tend to prefer being on the "same team" together.