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26 Apr 2017, 14:22 PM
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28 Apr 2017, 17:02 PM
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I always wonder how these small game sites stay afloat. I mean do people still go to these sites (or read reviews for that matter)
28 Apr 2017, 17:07 PM
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I believe many review sites/businesses get paid by publishers or dev's for biased press. I can't imagine that a review website/business has much overhead to begin with though.
28 Apr 2017, 17:11 PM
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To be honest, I only trust these guys. This channel is so sincere and on point, it is refreshing. Check em out if you can!

28 Apr 2017, 18:54 PM
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the only thing holding me back from buying is the animations.

In CoH: screaming, crouching, prone soldiers, that reload their stuff muanually, looking around, holding the helmet while retreating etc. and and and...


in DoW3: 1 second loops of the same animations (worst one: devastors)

the worst thing: it was better in dow1 13 years ago
28 Apr 2017, 19:47 PM
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To be honest, I only trust these guys. This channel is so sincere and on point, it is refreshing. Check em out if you can!



+1 those guys are legit
28 Apr 2017, 20:42 PM
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To be honest, I only trust these guys. This channel is so sincere and on point, it is refreshing. Check em out if you can!



Subscribed months ago, great channel!!!
29 Apr 2017, 05:06 AM
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Imagine if Relic starts selling "elites" for real money like COH2. The P2W outrage will kill the game without any chance of recovery. The primary reason COH2 somewhat recovered (game not dead yet) from the P2W sentiments + bait and switch (War Spoils Skydive Event) was because the game has no real competition.

If Relic intends to make money from elites, that should have been clearly communicated to the player base BEFORE launch day. Now it's TO LATE.
Many players might hate premium commanders/elites but there is something they will hate even more; bait and switch marketing. Even the new EA CEO are trying to stay away from these past mistakes. EAs new mantra is; "think players first".

Why are paid games adding micro payments (article by the owner of steamspy)?
https://galyonk.in/why-paid-games-are-adding-micro-payments-526f358426c6

How Electronic Arts stopped being the worst company in America
https://www.cnet.com/news/how-electronic-arts-stopped-being-the-worst-company-in-america/
Turning the Titanic

That group of executives who met with Probst in April 2013 ultimately became what he called a rehabilitation group. Their job was to fix customers' complaints.

"Very early on, we developed a list of policies," Probst said. "We systematically went down the list -- what can we do differently?"

Among them, EA created a "Great Game Guarantee," offering customers a full refund, for any reason, of a game purchased through its online store within 24 hours of first playing, or in the first seven days of purchase.

The company also did away with a draconian feature it built to fight piracy and reselling of used games, which required customers to type in a code on their computer or game console.

See also: Five ways Electronic Arts got back into the game

Next, EA worked on fixing its relationship with customers. Gamers are not like most normal people; they're committed, passionate, enthusiastic consumers who go all in when a new game they want is released. Some sit in front of their screen, mashing on buttons for hours -- or days -- until they finish the latest title. The company needed someone at the helm who understood them.

In September 2013, Andrew Wilson was named EA's new CEO after Riccitiello left abruptly. Then 39 years old, Wilson had rapidly risen from being a developer in the company's Australian offices to head of its sports games, including Madden football and FIFA soccer. He'd also overseen the company's "Ultimate Team" services, a form of fantasy sports that became a bedrock of the company's games and profits.


Free Elites? Enjoy it while it last to next expansion?

29 Apr 2017, 12:01 PM
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I believe many review sites/businesses get paid by publishers or dev's for biased press. I can't imagine that a review website/business has much overhead to begin with though.

I guess that's true, but what seperates them from regular reviewers, people that make video reviews on yt then?
29 Apr 2017, 12:19 PM
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TotalBiscuit just tore it a new one.

He liked 1 and 2 but 3 has nothing new; it is limited in modes and maps, it is made to be stale meta, allowing it to be a DLC platform.



+1 to Cobra post.

- 1 to the Pretty Good Gaming review, though.

All that video does is praise the game and then say some things are maybe a bit "not quite there" - well, when they said that the single player campaign isn't "as enthralling" as CoH2's campaign, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

The YouTube comments seem the most sane thing about that video :D
29 Apr 2017, 15:05 PM
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the steam reviews are shite as well
29 Apr 2017, 18:15 PM
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- 1 to the Pretty Good Gaming review, though.



They said it was a downstep from DOW II and didn't have anything that made CoH2 great. They simply named some great things from the game, which it surely has. It just isn't a good game compared to DOW II. Did you even listen to them lol?

As for the channel, it is a great channel.
29 Apr 2017, 19:07 PM
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Wtf you can't rotate the camera??? 0/10
29 Apr 2017, 19:19 PM
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2017 game no customizable hotkeys or proper observer mode...
Kinda thought they'd learned after CoH 2
29 Apr 2017, 20:47 PM
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I was highly skeptical of the game, like most people on coh2.org, but after playing the open beta I decided to buy the game and am glad I did.

There are a few valid criticisms of the game such as:
*The UI could be way better, it kind of sucks in a few ways. Hopefully there will be a UI overhaul.

*No customizable hotkeys (I don't care because I'd use grid keys anyways) but this seems a bit funny coming from the coh2 crowd.

*Low number of maps on launch. This is easily fixable.

*Maybe a few others that I am forgetting at the moment, but almost all the criticisms I've heard do not apply to the core game - which is quite good.

The positives:
*Combat is fun, intense, and beautiful to watch (this is important for spectators)

*Symmetrical maps.

*Mirror matches enabled.

*Easy to understand, difficult to master economy management.

*Base building is an actual thing (it is important where you place forward structures and that you continue to place structures forward as the game progresses.)

*Elite units are awesome, quite reminiscent of heroes in Wc3 - although not as ridiculous as Wc3 heroes could get late game.

*No RNG from what I've seen.

*The doctrine system is actually cool and interesting, unlike bulletins.

*The game performs well. I've never had any sort of major frame drops/lag even in 3v3s, while streaming.

Probably missing some positive aspects of the game because I just want to finish up this post.

Essentially almost every criticism I've seen, at least on coh2.org, ends up being shallow and mostly focused on non-core parts of the game. A lot of this comes off as people just hating on the game to hate on it because that's what all the cool kids are doing. The core game is legitimately good, quite a lot better than the core of CoH 2 I have to admit. (And I was extremely skeptical of DoW 3).

If you want a tactical RTS, you won't like DoW 3 because it is a traditional RTS. If you like traditional RTS, or if you liked Wc3, you'll probably enjoy DoW 3 a lot.
29 Apr 2017, 21:04 PM
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the gameplay itself is actually not as bad as most people claim it to be imo. the whole moba/league thing is really overstated.
the game is fundamentally not a typical relic game though, it definitely lacks the immersion of coh2 and dow2 and leans more towards traditional rts gamey style
personally i wouldnt say that the fights are really beautiful to watch, right now combat is dominated by whoever can CC and knockback the most, and the animations and overall art aesthetic are pretty generic imo.

29 Apr 2017, 21:40 PM
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The combat is more clear as to who is winning than CoH 2, which is a great thing for spectators.

CC and knockbacks are strong, but as long as you're not blobbing I don't think they're overly dominant. ASMs lose a lot of attacking time to jump into a knockback, unless you knock back more than one squad (or have many other squads focus firing) it isn't always worth it. Plus, most of the time the CC is avoidable.

Gabriel is pretty silly with the CC though... his directional knockback can be pretty OpieOP.
30 Apr 2017, 08:11 AM
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looking at the steam review numbers its close to 50/50 so its a marmite game.

I'm having fun with it but what I'm mostly worried with is Relic's post game support and how that will turn out.
9 May 2017, 09:15 AM
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Also for current players, is this game plagued with Bugsplat?
9 May 2017, 14:00 PM
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Game is running fine, never had a Bugsplat in 25 hours playtime.
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Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
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Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
webdesign-muenchen-w: @Rosbone it is sick
14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
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KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
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Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
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OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! :P
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Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then?
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Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. :rofl:
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Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
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