Women soviet tank drivers become men
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I know this isn't a big issue, but if it never gets fixed I am going to assume the loader hijacked the tank commander's comms to express his final frustration.
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Women shouldn't be represented in warfare. Not in a game, not irl. Period.. Take out those damn women.
... because there are so little games where ppl like you can only play their male heros with their super male muscles and big maley male swords or masculin cars ... soviets had quite a lot female soldiers, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be represented.
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Women shouldn't be represented in warfare. Not in a game, not irl. Period.. Take out those damn women.
Surely you're not serious.
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But yeah many sound effects are fucked in this game, they dont care, it will be £5 soon like COH1 because they take forever to balance and sort things out.
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Equal rights is not just about getting paided the same, its also about dealing with the same shit
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Equal rights is not just about getting paided the same, its also about dealing with the same shit
as long as they can do the "SAME SHIT"
equal standards too
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as long as they can do the "SAME SHIT"
equal standards too
Equal standards does not really apply, Men and Women are built diffrently and that should be taken into account, an example being men are generally stronger and can lift heavier things, whereas women tend to have a higher pain threshold, these difrences should not effect how we treat each other though
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Permanently Bannedwomen tend to have a higher pain threshold
That's been refuted.
Furthermore, during my conscription, I had the women recruits under my command for 3 months. In those 3 months, I saw almost each one of those recruits burst into tears, spontaneously, losing their shit, at random moments. But I never, in the full 13 months of my service, even once, saw a man cry or lose it like that.
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Why shouldnt women be in war?? they have the right to die like any man fighting/being forced to for there country.
Because basically everything he says
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That's been refuted.
Furthermore, during my conscription, I had the women recruits under my command for 3 months. In those 3 months, I saw almost each one of those recruits burst into tears, spontaneously, losing their shit, at random moments. But I never, in the full 13 months of my service, even once, saw a man cry or lose it like that.
Yes anecdotal eveidence is very convincing, My brother recently came back fro ma tour in afghanistan, i have talked to him abotu some but not all of it, i will not go into details but Women are just as strong as men when it comes to emotional strength.
I hate to brake out the old argument of childbirth, but have you witnessed one? i have, and i can swear hand on my heart i would never ever go through that willingly.
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That's been refuted.
Furthermore, during my conscription, I had the women recruits under my command for 3 months. In those 3 months, I saw almost each one of those recruits burst into tears, spontaneously, losing their shit, at random moments. But I never, in the full 13 months of my service, even once, saw a man cry or lose it like that.
Without going into many details +1 nullist... And yes... i know... And i have my reasons... I will go no further.
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Permanently BannedAs to childbirth, I wouldnt want to go through it either, but thats because Im not physically built for it. See?
Feel free to google recent studies on pain thresholds between the sexes. Youll find your preconception is outdated.
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Permanently BannedMy CO was female, and I had tremendous respect for her, beyond her rank. Shes the one that assigned the women to my command, which I took as a great honor and did my utmost to do my best at, owing to the particular fact that the women where there voluntarily, rather than by mandatory conscription as was rhe case for the males.
Unfortunately, the majority of the female recruits, except two, did not share her suitability for military service.
Physically and emotionally the army was very challenging for all of them. The social environment of forced conformity, being yeld at, subjugating the ego to orders and the good of the unit, physical hardship such as lack of sleep, over-exertion, heavy loads over long distances etc.
A number of them where so small of stature that their full field gear weighed almost as much as they did themselves.
Im all for equality, in all things. But this also means equal standards of service. I expected them to perform sufficiently in all duties, as I would of any male.
When bootcamp came to an end, and it was time to make recommendations for which recruits to earmark for sending to NCO and officer training, I could not with good conscience recommend any of the women. Neither would I have recommended any male recruit who could not themselves physically perform what they would have to expect from their subordinates, nor whos emotional control was poor enough to allow for crying and other public display of emotional lability.
I welcome women into service, gladly and without reservation.
But they have to be able to perform to the same standard expected of males.
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For the record my mind is not closed to new information, you provided no information just an opinion based on an anecdotal story.
I was aruging that women have the right to be in the armed forces and are more than strong enough to cope.
As a side note you may not have seen a man cry but there is a plethora of evidence show casing men needing physcological help after being in the military for both male and female, from that i am lead to believe emotional outbursts do not show weakness.
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