ISU 152, Jagd and Ferdinand. Why don't they share range.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2017, 01:23 AMLoopDloop

Well especially on 3v3+ the whole map usually eventually gets filled with caches, but most of the time allies are more manpower-stricken in my experience. Although this might be due to the fact that when I play okw I play aggressive like allies and try to bleed them as much as I can, since it's annoying as hell as allies to have that done to you (and I'm tbh mostly an allies player). It did also sound like you were saying okw still got that reduced fuel income, but that's just a simple misunderstanding.

Okw does also get to salvage their own kubelspam and other people's shitty team weapon spam, as stated above.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2017, 20:29 PMGarrett

Yes thats true, but in 2v2 - with the current state of Ost - two OKWs is not too surprising = no caches. For 3v3 and 4v4 I cant speak, but balance in those modi is broken anyways or at least totally different from 2v2s.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2017, 04:52 AMNano

It's just a remnant of the poorly thought out rework of OKW ages ago.

Originally OKW had some unique mechanics regarding fuel/munitions as I'm sure you know. When the rework was done it pretty much totaly devalued improved salvage as an ability and on top of that it appears no thought was put into the need for caches.

Sad face.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 13:33 PMLoopDloop

I guess this is true. Although (it may however just be my allied bias) I think there's something to be said about the fact that the faction with one of the most cost effective mainline infantry, arguably the best tanks, and a nondoctrinal heavy does not get to build caches.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 13:33 PMLoopDloop

I guess this is true. Although (it may however just be my allied bias) I think there's something to be said about the fact that the faction with one of the most cost effective mainline infantry, arguably the best tanks, and a nondoctrinal heavy does not get to build caches.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 20:10 PMAlphrum

cost efficient infantry for OKW lol and best tanks in the game awards goes to brits they can shut down any late game okw tank play

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 13:33 PMLoopDloop

I guess this is true. Although (it may however just be my allied bias) I think there's something to be said about the fact that the faction with one of the most cost effective mainline infantry, arguably the best tanks, and a nondoctrinal heavy does not get to build caches.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 22:15 PMelchino7

Meh, the "reason" is scavenge. It's not about the resources you get out of it, but denying support weapons from your opponent.

Jump back to quoted post17 Mar 2017, 20:00 PMZombiFrancis

I'm not so sure OKW has the most cost efficient mainline infantry. Early game, sure, but rifles definitely outscale them so long as they get bars to match up to the stgs.

I'd also argue that penals are waaaay more cost efficient but people tend to think they're suppowed to be like panzer grens or shock troopers or something. Tommies can easily be cost effective in the same ways as rifles, but bolstering squads and weapon racks scale that cost efficiency down a bit.

I would never call Sturm pioneers or obers cost efficient. Panzerfusiliers are the only doctrinal okw unit I'd call cost effective.

They do have that KT though, which alone might be reason enough for okw to not have easier fuel access.