EDIT: There should be a ? in the title, I forgot to add it and now it sounds like a statement
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changed the title to "UKF Snares - How to balance?" from "UKF Snares - How to balance"
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EDIT: There should be a ? in the title, I forgot to add it and now it sounds like a statement
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Every faction dont need have all, what others have. Brits dont need snare.
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The discussion is far from over. OKW didnt get snares til the removal of shrecks. Before that they didnt need them. Whith the new change to piats, i believe the brits dont need snares
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Don't forget that OKW has better tanks than UKF along with better AT options. Faust, shreck Mines and rak.
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You can't be serious, i think your bias is showing through.
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So they don't have better tanks
shreck + fausts are worse than just Piats?
Id rather an invisible, retreat-able garrison-able AT gun than the 6PDR but that's my preference.
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Which OKW tank is superior? AEC is better than the luchs, P4 worse than the crushwell, comet is better than the panther, Churchill Croc is better than flame hetzer, Firefly is better than the jp4 ( JP4 does have better vet). So that leaves what, KT and JT (puma if you want to count that as a tank)? In the majority of the cases, OKWs tanks are not better.
You mean the single shrek that OKW can get? Shreks on sturms never make that big of an impact.
Because you've never used it before and seen how many times it hits fence posts. Plus garrison on it is a noob trap until they fix hold fire and the only reason why retreat is necessary is because it has to get to 30 range to actually hit anything. Better to just have a normal ATgun that can fire from 60 range (from in the FOW) and just reverse if things are getting near.
If you think the rakken is the better than the hyper accurate, hyper mobile 6pdr, you are delusional and willfully ignorant.
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Id rather an invisible, retreat-able garrison-able AT gun than the 6PDR but that's my preference.
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The rest of the tanks are toss ups and trade offs
How can you say Shrecks don't make an impact? That single Shreck has about the same impact as double PIATS, check here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg7YBF-nJxc
This was made before the recent WBP where PIATS now have reduced stats
I've never used a rak? Ever? Not even when playing as OKW? Every game I play against OKW if I decrew a rak I take it if I have the chance.
When did I say the rak was better?
better AT options,Faust, shreck Mines andrak.
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How can you say Shrecks don't make an impact? That single Shreck has about the same impact as double PIATS, check here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg7YBF-nJxc
This was made before the recent WBP where PIATS now have reduced stats
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So you agree that you were originally wrong then? OKW doesn't have better tanks than UKF
Because Shrek's come in on an expensive 300 MP squad for 90 muni and lock them out of detecting mines, where PIATs come in on a squad that's 210 MP and are pritty damn tough and spammable, unlike the sturmpio.
Yes I agree, for the high cost of zero MP, the rakken is certainly a cost effective weapon. Also i can see why you think the retreat is so handy, if you're in a position to take one, its a key click away to make it run back to your base.
Because this form has rules, i say nothing.
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Was this supposed to prove that Shreks were better?
Because all it proved was that 2 vet 5 sturms took ~25s to kill a okw p4, and it takes 2 vet 3 sappers ~15s to kill a p4.
600 MP, 180 munitions (shreks) is worse than 420 MP, 160 munitions. I dare say, one could conclude that PIATS seem to be better. Weird eh?
Plus you don't take into account that vet 5 should not be compared to vet 3 and piats have 45 range.
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It's to show they are similar which it does.
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Killing something roughly 1/3 faster for much cheaper is a weird way to say similar. Either way, that video no where near showed your presumption that shreks are better.
From that controlled experiment, yes in that case piats are better? How could you not say that when you video shows that they perform better, in every measure of the word?
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with the new piats brits should be fine without snares. The part i agree with you is punishing early unfair base rushes, if thats the case i'd make the brit bunkers in base effective vs's light vehicles like OKW's flak.
Killing something roughly 1/3 faster for much cheaper is a weird way to say similar. Either way, that video no where near showed your presumption that shreks are better.
From that controlled experiment, yes in that case piats are better? How could you not say that when you video shows that they perform better, in every measure of the word?
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Lets not forget that Shrek auto aim, and piats dont for now
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That video and comment he made was in regards to WPB pal, where PIATS do home, I believe they do in the version the video was shot in.
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That video and comment he made was in regards to WPB pal, where PIATS do home, I believe they do in the version the video was shot in.