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9 Nov 2016, 13:32 PM
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Apart from being much more expensive per GB, SSDs generally also have a shorter lifespan than HDDs, so moving large amounts of data is a bit "unhealthy". But it really depends on how much data you want to store. If 275/525GB are enough for you, getting only an SSD is fine!
9 Nov 2016, 13:56 PM
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Apart from being much more expensive per GB, SSDs generally also have a shorter lifespan than HDDs, so moving large amounts of data is a bit "unhealthy". But it really depends on how much data you want to store. If 275/525GB are enough for you, getting only an SSD is fine!

What's the usual lifespan of either?
9 Nov 2016, 14:19 PM
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Most mainstream HDDs come with two years of warranty and can easily last for five years of longer, if your PC is properly cooled.

For SSDs, the lifespan mostly depends on the amount of data that is written: The 275GB and 525GB MX300 models I suggested are rated for 80TB and 160TB, respectively. They come with three years of warranty, but as with all SSDs, that is only valid until those values are reached, a far as I know. So you should definitely take into account how much data you want to store and how often you want to move it.

Edit: I'm mostly talking about warranty here, but warranty obviously doesn't help much if your drive fails and your data is gone. Making regular backups is always advisable! But the general rule is that most of the time, HDDs do last quite a bit longer than SSDs.
9 Nov 2016, 14:49 PM
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Most mainstream HDDs come with two years of warranty and can easily last for five years of longer, if your PC is properly cooled.

For SSDs, the lifespan mostly depends on the amount of data that is written: The 275GB and 525GB MX300 models I suggested are rated for 80TB and 160TB, respectively. They come with three years of warranty, but as with all SSDs, that is only valid until those values are reached, a far as I know. So you should definitely take into account how much data you want to store and how often you want to move it.

Edit: I'm mostly talking about warranty here, but warranty obviously doesn't help much if your drive fails and your data is gone. Making regular backups is always advisable! But the general rule is that most of the time, HDDs do last quite a bit longer than SSDs.

Alright thanks. Major storage atm will be done on my laptop as a stopgap, I may end up getting a hard drive for the desktop itself some time in the future when this becomes too unwieldy.

Time to decide and order the parts :hyper:
9 Nov 2016, 18:57 PM
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9 Nov 2016, 20:34 PM
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Looking good! Post a picture or two when it's finished, I'm curious :D
9 Nov 2016, 21:24 PM
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good luck and lots of fun with building the machine! :D

Apart from being much more expensive per GB, SSDs generally also have a shorter lifespan than HDDs, so moving large amounts of data is a bit "unhealthy". But it really depends on how much data you want to store. If 275/525GB are enough for you, getting only an SSD is fine!


That is why it was strange to me that you said it is wrong to use for data storage. Generally data storage is much more often read than written to. Lets say avarage user wants to put some images there for example. He won't delete them for at least 3 years or so probably. Text documents would be much worse, but it is really hard to make enough of them so that the size really mattered.

In fact the only way of killing your SSD quickly in a pc is to put your swap file/partition there :D but afaik, windows knows not to do it right now. The other way would be to put NoSQL DB there but I don't think it's something anybody does on his PC.
9 Nov 2016, 22:06 PM
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Well, I guess you're right about that! Although the high speed is not as useful when you're just opening video/audio/image files. Having everything on an SSD would be nice, but I have too much data (and not enough money) for that :D
9 Nov 2016, 23:33 PM
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Well, I guess you're right about that! Although the high speed is not as useful when you're just opening video/audio/image files. Having everything on an SSD would be nice, but I have too much data (and not enough money) for that :D

Yeah, and I decided to not go with the SSD option because well... it was £70 more than the 1tb hard drive. I'll probably egt one at some point in the future and install my favourite games to it.

And yes, pictures coming next week!
11 Nov 2016, 10:28 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post9 Nov 2016, 23:33 PMSwift

Yeah, and I decided to not go with the SSD option because well... it was £70 more than the 1tb hard drive. I'll probably get one at some point in the future and install my favourite games to it.

get one as soon as you can afford it, i assure you, its owrth it. and you need to install the OS and your browser and such on it aswell, it speeds up everything A LOT.
11 Nov 2016, 11:44 AM
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First pictures :hyper:

Was expecting first deliveries on Tuesday so was very surprised earlier this morning.



11 Nov 2016, 13:55 PM
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13 Nov 2016, 16:23 PM
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Rest has arrived early. Time to start clubbing bits together.



13 Nov 2016, 17:57 PM
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Nice! Got any help with building, or are you learning it from tutorials?
Also, did you decide to get another motherboard after all?
13 Nov 2016, 21:54 PM
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Soooooo slight oversight...

There are no case fans.

Resuming it on Tuesday :[
14 Nov 2016, 10:42 AM
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14 Nov 2016, 11:47 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Nov 2016, 21:54 PMSwift
Soooooo slight oversight...

There are no case fans.

Resuming it on Tuesday :[

The case should come with one fan. And if that's an Asus H110M-C motherboard, you only have one case fan connector anyway!
14 Nov 2016, 14:40 PM
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The case should come with one fan. And if that's an Asus H110M-C motherboard, you only have one case fan connector anyway!

That's the issue though, it was meant to come with one and didn't, so I contacted the seller about it and ordered some replacements.
14 Nov 2016, 18:23 PM
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Are you using the stock cooler that comes with the i5? Prepare for it to get loud on boot and under heavy loads B-)
14 Nov 2016, 18:26 PM
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Are you using the stock cooler that comes with the i5? Prepare for it to get loud on boot and under heavy loads B-)


You should look at the pictures without those dark glasses Ami :P there is a cpu cooler behind the RAM there
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