Pseudo rng

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 09:48 AMMr.Smith

No.

Otherwise, I would just attack-move my T-34 horde against Axis Kruppsteel, and still have good chances to win.

It would also make estimating DPS / the outcome of tank battles way more challenging. Thus, we wouldn't be able to truly estimate how powerful certain weapons are.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 10:27 AMKatitof

There is no need to make the game completely retard-proof, because its not a moba.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 10:27 AMKatitof

For accuracy:
get closer to increase it.

For penetration:
get closer to increase it.

For barrage weapons accuracy:
get close to increase it.

There is no need to make the game completely retard-proof, because its not a moba.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 12:23 PMStug life

what i wanted is more prevedible rng like not kat or panzerwfer firing max range and hit everything or sometime t34 pen 5 time some time 0

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 12:29 PMKatitof

In short, you want to mitigate on RNG, use specialists against the targets you want to take down.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 12:33 PMMr.Smith

I'll have to completely agree with that. Otherwise units like the Panther, or the SU-85 (which sacrificed its rate of fire), are going to be completely suckered out by this deal.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 13:48 PMElSlayer

I wouldn't say that Panther is AS MUCH specialist unit as SU-85.
Panther have quite good AI. It just have AI dps is stable (not bursty) and therefore don't have as much wipe potential as average medium tank (with good AoE).

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 12:29 PMKatitof

In short, you want to mitigate on RNG, use specialists against the targets you want to take down.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 12:33 PMMr.Smith

Otherwise units like the Panther, or the SU-85 (which sacrificed its rate of fire), are going to be completely suckered out by this deal.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 12:36 PMmedhood

RNG is a big factor in this game, but can be controllable through abilities and positioning although there instances were a player would luck out in a fight and win because of RNG but it tends to be rare and could happen to you as much as it can happen to him, so this sort of change could be useful in certain situations but it isnt necessary

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 14:26 PMscratchedpaintjob

that is so wrong. imagine a situation, where you can shoot once at a low health tank. regardless of which AT unit you have (pak, panther, shrecks, ...) its hit or miss, so either veretancy ofr oyu, or a "free" tank for the enemy. in such situations RNG plays a critical role, regardless of wether you have an expert unit or unit, because the especialized units themselves rely on RNG too.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 14:26 PMscratchedpaintjob

most of the time, especially in infantry fights, one can control RNG pretty good. but in other situations, one cannot. but those are often the most important ones, so pseudo RNG would reaaly help there.

please, know what pseudo rng is before posting here.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 14:41 PMKatitof

And that RNG should never go, because this is what makes CoH2.

Without it, you can just go play starcraft or any C&C clone instead.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 14:48 PMmedhood

Having an increased chance to perform an action everytime it fails, so I can get an increased chance to penetrate everytime I get deflects

But if this is implemented what would be the point of flanking to get rear armour shots in or getting in close for better penetration?

You may be all for AT Guns getting increased pen chance vs tanks at long range, but a tank at long range deserves low chances to be hit or penned it just cant stay there forever

A unit in cover deserves less of a chance to be hit, it can be countered by getting in close, flamethrowers, mortars etc

Most the RNG in this game can be manipulated by the player, if it cant THEN Pseudo RNG would be better

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 14:54 PMscratchedpaintjob

you clearly have zero clue what the pseudo RNG does

it is still RNG, but it takes the last numbers into account. for example:

your stug is shooting at an enemy tank. his chance to hit may be 25% on average. In case of RNG, it will always be 25%. with pseudo RNG, your first pick has a 8.5%, your second 17%, third 25.5% and so on until you hit the target, then it gets reset. the average chnace is still 25%



so basically, the only thing this does is decrease the chance of very unlucky events (10 shots at an enemy low health tank withotu finishing it off)


wrong. please read what i wrote above. it does not change the overall chance, flanking is still worth it, units in cover still get a bonus, etc, pp.

sorry, i may be a bit harsh, but both of you dont know what they are talking about. please read this:Link to Virus

Jump back to quoted post17 Jun 2016, 15:08 PMmedhood

So what you're saying is let me get this straight, everytime a unit performs an action and it fails at this action next time it performs the action on the same unit it has an increased chance to succeed at the action and this will repeat until it performs the action cause thats what I pretty much said earlier

"Having an increased chance to perform an action everytime it fails, so I can get an increased chance to penetrate everytime I get deflects"

Then you complain about how you hate low health tanks are escaped

but of course retreating tanks will be harder to hit, a moving tank is harder to hit and the tank chasing it will also have crappier accuracy

This can be prevented if you flanked that tank and force it into retreating into your unit so that you dont have to move to hit it and get better accuracy when hitting it thus making it be in danger for a longer time