What do you think Relic should do?
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If anything SEGA needs to throw them a bone so they can hire a proper balancing team otherwise they're going to run into all the same problems with Coh3, Dawn of War 3.. or any RTS game they develop in the future.
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Imo they will get coh2 into the f2p-market, with ingamestore and ingame currency they are ready for that. A bit later release coh3 or dow3...
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Balance may be the key, but they cant stop producing new content. It's a business, they can't balance for free at this point. A game that 3 yrs old is no longer really making any revenue off sales. They rely on DLC/Skins,etc to make any sort of cash flow...
There is the argument that improving balance, even if it not a profitable endeavor in the short term, is good for the company's reputation and will improve sales of future titles. That said it's pretty clear that whoever is in charge of Relic doesn't take that view.
We should accept that most players don't notice/care about balance at this point. We are a small and vocal minority; most others who bought the game are happy enjoying campaign, comp stomps, or have long since moved on to this month's new popular game. On top of that, as bad as CoH2 is in some ways, when CoH3 comes out, I guarantee we'll all buy it eventually (albeit perhaps on sale rather than on release).
Anyway it's a lost cause trying to get the balance near-perfect, that would require a major redesign of the factions and some core mechanics. Personally I think the best course of action at this point would be to fund a big push to fix the major balance and technical issues, thus restoring the reputation of the IP. From there, fund a small group of designers to work closely with the community to develop new commanders and occasionally tweak any balance issues their introduction may create.
For CoH3 cut away the shit DLC commander system, and take time to learn from the successes and failures of CoH2. Don't do what happened with the UKF and take all the annoying aspects of Brits from CoH1.
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Coh2 has too many issues. The code is horrible and keeps getting riddled with new bugs; . P2W commanders are too deeply rooted into the game and power-creep had made half of the content of the game useless. The desire to make each faction as different from one-another as possible had created factions that lack basic features such as infantry based, anti-garrison tools, or artillery. These roles then have to be forfilled with doctrinal units. These doctrinal units are of course only found in 4 euro premium commanders.
Best to just abandon ship and start fresh. You will never be able to build an excellent game on such a broken foundation.
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Relic's job is not to make the CoH2 the best game it can be - their mission is to optimise the revenue & cost balance by releasing enough paid content to pay for the minimum amount of ongoing support capable of sustaining the game at a playable level.
Of course a poll on this forum will always result in the majority of people wanting a focus on balance and improvements. Unfortunately, the reality is that this will never happen.
The level of testing for recent patches and overall patching speed/volume suggests to me that the CoH2 team is a residual skeleton crew.
I am slowly resigning myself to the fact that CoH2 will never be the game it could have been - any time we get close to balance, they (have to) release new paid content, which instantly throws the game out of balance again.
All we can hope for is some prudent bug fixes and a more restrained approach to making new content appealing... so far, even that seems a long way off.
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For perspective, the MWNL skins were free, now they are selling them. And I don't mean new versions like UKF (there are none), but the ones they already gave away for free. Not only selling, but at full price. You'd think something like adding blood spatter on default skins would at least be appealing through half price or something.
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I hope GabeN buy all Company of Heroes franchise (:
Yes, we definitely would enjoy hats DLCs with actual content upgrades every X years
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I hope GabeN buy all Company of Heroes franchise (:
Then CoH3 will never be released.
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Then CoH3 will never be released.
but It'll be scheduled for "soon" after HL3
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Ok, I got that from another thread.
It sounded very reasonable at the time I read it.
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The only redeeming thing happening is the fact that playerbase actually grew a little on the last few months (refer to Steam Charts). Still, right now I'm spending my gaming time hoarding septims on Skyrim.
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Then CoH3 will never be released.
Yeah, I guess the reason would be due to the quality of the CoH2 product.
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Rewrite from scratch would describe it better.
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Rewrite from scratch would describe it better.
Exactly that my friend
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