Muh! 1v1 only true way to play Coh2!!!!!111
Muh! it's the only true way Judge balance because everything upwards is more about teamcomposition (players&factions) than the balance of units itself! !1!1!1
Nerf the panzerwerfer already
15 Feb 2016, 13:40 PM
#41
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Muh! it's the only true way Judge balance because everything upwards is more about teamcomposition (players&factions) than the balance of units itself! !1!1!1
15 Feb 2016, 14:38 PM
#42
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ever tried to get one in 1v1 / 2v2
have you ever tried that once?
To be fair that probably says more about Ostheer teching than it does about Panzerwerfer's performance. It's mostly okay though I think removing the suppression wouldn't be bad - it was a good idea when it was underperforming but now it feels a bit excessive. (And if we're being honest, probably a byproduct of Relic's infatuation with the artillery suppression experiment ala ISG and Pack Howie. That and I think the far and maybe midrange damage can be scaled back just a tad (same with Calliope).
15 Feb 2016, 17:32 PM
#43
Posts: 367
Hmm I was too lazy to write sooner... Nerv incoming according to leaked patch notes.
Delay between rockets 0.1 seconds. And I think some more. Am at work now no time to look up source.
where did u see that leak notes?
15 Feb 2016, 18:03 PM
#44
Posts: 196
Maybe Rocket arty should all be more in line with what katyusha is. These were designed to be area of effect, saturation type of arty.
By bringing down every rocket barrage weapon to the levels of the Katyusha and giving Field Howitzers slight accuracy buff, it would again give howies a role to fulfill in the game.
IF that is asking for too much, then hard cap the number of Rocket arty vehicles you can call in, to prevent the situations like the Calliope abuse, etc.
Don't mind arty suppressing infantry, it makes sense( realistically speaking), however, all i ask is for consistency and that it be applied to all types of arty. Plus bring back mines suppression while we are at it.
By bringing down every rocket barrage weapon to the levels of the Katyusha and giving Field Howitzers slight accuracy buff, it would again give howies a role to fulfill in the game.
IF that is asking for too much, then hard cap the number of Rocket arty vehicles you can call in, to prevent the situations like the Calliope abuse, etc.
Don't mind arty suppressing infantry, it makes sense( realistically speaking), however, all i ask is for consistency and that it be applied to all types of arty. Plus bring back mines suppression while we are at it.
15 Feb 2016, 21:31 PM
#45
Posts: 365
Or nobody demos.
Until Wehr gets demos, muni free precision shot ++ is here to stay!
But seriously.... Give everyone demos....
But.... Demos....
Demos are one of the very few things that makes soviets uniquely fun and rewarding to play.
15 Feb 2016, 22:49 PM
#46
Posts: 794
And what is your suggested counter to the follwing stuff;
Zis/6P walls
Building Hoppers
Vet3 Space Dudes
Oh lemme guess, it's the leFH.
Zis/6P walls
Building Hoppers
Vet3 Space Dudes
Oh lemme guess, it's the leFH.
15 Feb 2016, 22:52 PM
#47
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And what is your suggested counter to the follwing stuff;
Zis/6P walls
Building Hoppers
Vet3 Space Dudes
Oh lemme guess, it's the leFH.
And what do you suggest agasint:
Pak wall.
Volks blob
Fusiliers blob
15 Feb 2016, 23:03 PM
#48
Posts: 794
Callie, 2xPack, HM, Kat at close range, 25P etc
15 Feb 2016, 23:10 PM
#49
Posts: 747 | Subs: 2
And what is your suggested counter to the follwing stuff;
Zis/6P walls
Building Hoppers
Vet3 Space Dudes
Oh lemme guess, it's the leFH.
And what do you suggest agasint:
Pak wall.
Volks blob
Fusiliers blob
25P etc
Fail.
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15 Feb 2016, 23:17 PM
#50
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Callie, 2xPack, HM, Kat at close range, 25P etc
So if you propose Katy, why don't we make pzwerfer similar to katy instead og being few time better?
25P lol
15 Feb 2016, 23:24 PM
#51
Posts: 794
2x25P are quite potent.
The katy is not dealing with 6 men vet3 fellows or 5men vet3 brothers with 2x m1919/Brens.
The katy is not dealing with 6 men vet3 fellows or 5men vet3 brothers with 2x m1919/Brens.
15 Feb 2016, 23:39 PM
#52
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25-Pounders are like the punchline of a joke told by that guy you know who really thinks he has a sense of humor but it's clear to people with functioning eyes and ears that he doesn't.
16 Feb 2016, 00:47 AM
#53
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2x25P are quite potent.
The katy is not dealing with 6 men vet3 fellows or 5men vet3 brothers with 2x m1919/Brens.
Veterancy does not let squads survive getting rockets to the face. Nor does the weapons they are carrying effect their survivabilty.
The Katyusha also frequently deals with 5men squads, or did you forget that Volks are a thing?
16 Feb 2016, 00:53 AM
#54
Posts: 2742
I don't usually need katyushas versus Ostheer. Their infantry is squishy enough and they can't default to schreck blobs if you get the fuel advantage.
It's those 5 man volks with Schrecks that pretty much delete the efficacy of virtually all Allied armor.
It's those 5 man volks with Schrecks that pretty much delete the efficacy of virtually all Allied armor.
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16 Feb 2016, 01:19 AM
#55
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I don't usually need katyushas versus Ostheer. Their infantry is squishy enough and they can't default to schreck blobs if you get the fuel advantage.
true, just coming out of a game, 30muni mine wiped full health vet 3 panzergren with shreks and another one vet 3 gren lmg, damn i felt dirty. (no house entrance abuse, just placed on narrow routes).
i like the idea someone had with taking away suppresion from panzerwerfer and give it katy, would be pretty balanced imho (and nerf calliope somehow)
16 Feb 2016, 01:34 AM
#56
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2x25P are quite potent.
I have to quote Katitof here:
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16 Feb 2016, 04:04 AM
#57
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German infantry is more squishy. Can you imagine how stupid it would be if the Katyusha was like the Panzerwerfer damage-wise because the Ostheer have 4 man squads opposed to the USSR 6? The suppression is stupid though.
16 Feb 2016, 05:32 AM
#58
Posts: 290
It's just funny how allied players whine about volks blob, when allied blob is so much more powerful with bar/bren spamming on units.
And game wise werfer cost so much more time/resources (tech&build building + build time) to even get to the field if you compare to calliope. And if rushed, you are so weak on everything else in the field.
ps. Don't blob...
And game wise werfer cost so much more time/resources (tech&build building + build time) to even get to the field if you compare to calliope. And if rushed, you are so weak on everything else in the field.
ps. Don't blob...
16 Feb 2016, 05:37 AM
#59
Posts: 665
ever tried to get one in 1v1 / 2v2
have you ever tried that once?
I actually use them in 2v2, and I do find them a bit OP. The alpha strike and squadwiping potential is ridiculous, and it pretty much instakills garrisons.
It doesn't win games by itself, But it sure helps more than it should.
Oh and I actually display my playercard, so now's your chance to come up with another argument for a change.
16 Feb 2016, 10:09 AM
#60
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Why werfer still not nerfed?
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