Oorah+Nade combo negating multiple game mechanics.
1 Dec 2015, 10:15 AM
#1
Posts: 322
Limit the ability so using nades while the oorah is active shouldn't be possible. Vehicle play and MGs are useless due to this cheese at the moment.
Brummbar is very powerful
1 Dec 2015, 10:17 AM
#2
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Try to micro.
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1 Dec 2015, 10:19 AM
#3
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absolutely not.
1 Dec 2015, 10:20 AM
#4
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Try to micro.
Aaaaaand /thread.
It wasn't an issue for the last 2 and a half years, its not an issue now.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
1 Dec 2015, 10:21 AM
#5
Posts: 322
Try to micro.Sorry I can't oorah back and scape with my MGs/Vehicles.
Brummbar is very powerful
1 Dec 2015, 10:22 AM
#6
Posts: 1273
Conscripts doing 'Oorah+nade combo' is perhaps the best example of brilliant RTS gameplay there is in the game. The oorah ability, when being used, is clearly displayed to the enemy and to the player, and it opens up a tree of possibilities along with enough time for both sides to enact on the situation at hand. Great stuff, I wish there were things that worked like that in the game.
You call this cheese, I call this exciting gameplay and great unit interaction.
You call this cheese, I call this exciting gameplay and great unit interaction.
1 Dec 2015, 10:24 AM
#7
Posts: 322
If a single unit can use cheap abilities to negate multiple gameplay concepts then that is not a 'state of the art RTS Combo'. It's just a flawed design.
You call this cheese, I call this exciting gameplay and great unit interaction.
Cheer up
Brummbar is very powerful
1 Dec 2015, 10:28 AM
#8
Posts: 1273
According to what you said, you'd consider as good as all Infantry, Tanks and Support flawed then. They all have advantages to negate multiple gameplay concepts, that is what they're meant for.
At least Soviets have to spend considerable amount of fuel and munition to get something exciting out of a unit that has no endgame use at all but AT nades.
If you have problems with Conscripts, you really have to consider that you may have to... L2P
At least Soviets have to spend considerable amount of fuel and munition to get something exciting out of a unit that has no endgame use at all but AT nades.
If you have problems with Conscripts, you really have to consider that you may have to... L2P
1 Dec 2015, 10:28 AM
#9
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If a single unit can use cheap abilities to negate multiple gameplay concepts then that is not a 'state of the art RTS Combo'. It's just a flawed design.
Cheer up
Like shreck volks with long range, instant throw incendiary nade?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
1 Dec 2015, 10:29 AM
#10
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Aaaaaand /thread.
It wasn't an issue for the last 2 and a half years, its not an issue now.
+1
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1 Dec 2015, 10:31 AM
#11
Posts: 322
If you have concluded that cons have no late game use beside their nade then you have to L2P. Volks can't oorah up your ass though.
Brummbar is very powerful
1 Dec 2015, 10:34 AM
#12
Posts: 245
You can argue the same for rifle grenades against soviet MG's and USF smoke, it's not negating any gameplay mechanic it makes for better gameplay. MGS shouldn't uncounterable by early game inf. That's a bad mechanic.
1 Dec 2015, 10:37 AM
#13
5 Posts: 104
You still get suppressed with oorah popped. Keep your MG supported so it has more vision, and positioned well so that a sqaud can't get into its frontal arc unseen. This way there'll be no way to rush it frontally. If he flanks use your supporting squad to fight them on the approach.
You can't dump an MG down and be done with it, or put a squad in green cover and look somewhere else. You need to put as much effort into actively microing your defence as your opponent is putting into their attack.
With vehicles just reverse away. Familiarise yourself with the range needed for the snare and stay well out of it. Oorah is easy to predict, easy to spot, and easy to dodge with a tank.
You can't dump an MG down and be done with it, or put a squad in green cover and look somewhere else. You need to put as much effort into actively microing your defence as your opponent is putting into their attack.
With vehicles just reverse away. Familiarise yourself with the range needed for the snare and stay well out of it. Oorah is easy to predict, easy to spot, and easy to dodge with a tank.
1 Dec 2015, 10:54 AM
#14
Posts: 301
Simple lines of play against russians
-Do not go too close to conscripts vith your tanks.
-OOOORAAAAAAAAh is both clearly audible and expected in a lot of situation.
-In case of OOHRA + rush da tank, just go backtrack and shoot at him indefinitly while he runs in the open.
-Remember that the ATnade has to be in range for only one second, once the throw animation has begun it can cover 20000 km to hit your tank. So, be generous with the distance you put between your tanks and conscripts.
-Do not go too close to conscripts vith your tanks.
-OOOORAAAAAAAAh is both clearly audible and expected in a lot of situation.
-In case of OOHRA + rush da tank, just go backtrack and shoot at him indefinitly while he runs in the open.
-Remember that the ATnade has to be in range for only one second, once the throw animation has begun it can cover 20000 km to hit your tank. So, be generous with the distance you put between your tanks and conscripts.
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and pain... the perfect educator...
1 Dec 2015, 10:56 AM
#15
Posts: 246
Oh, and you forgot about a fact that Oorah! is a soviet version of vet.1 blitz on ost vehicles, only that it works on vodka and thus requires no vet (russians don't need vet to drink vodka)
UA
soviets
1 Dec 2015, 11:17 AM
#16
Posts: 1740
I think somebody is very salty atm and likes to create multiple salt threads.
Check out mine:
http://www.coh2.org/topic/45521/how-salty-are-you
Check out mine:
http://www.coh2.org/topic/45521/how-salty-are-you
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
1 Dec 2015, 12:18 PM
#17
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Please visit the strategy desk for your threads, the responses here indicate to me this has no place in balance.
The internal battery has run dry, the game can now be played. However, clock based events will no longer occur.
1 Dec 2015, 13:16 PM
#18
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Sorry I can't oorah back and scape with my MGs/Vehicles.
In my times, people used blitz to even escape from ramming T34s
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
1 Dec 2015, 13:27 PM
#19
Posts: 1653
Aaaaaand /thread.
It wasn't an issue for the last 2 and a half years, its not an issue now.
Exactly this. No problem
1 Dec 2015, 13:27 PM
#20
Posts: 1653
In my times, people used blitz to even escape from ramming T34s
The times where you needed the blitz to evade losing your tank
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