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Pershing Counter?

30 Oct 2015, 07:45 AM
#1
avatar of Jackfrosty

Posts: 63

How does this tank even make sense? USF has early, mid, and late game now? lel In all seriousness, how can you counter pershings AND ranger combo
30 Oct 2015, 10:33 AM
#2
avatar of |GB| The Lnt.599

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How does this tank even make sense? USF has early, mid, and late game now? lel In all seriousness, how can you counter pershings AND ranger combo


A Real strong counter vs this commander (in 1v1 or 2v2 and maybe even bigger teamgames) are pak43 doctrines, like(festung armor or fortifactions, or the defensive ost community commander and even joint operations. The pershing commander lacks a strong off map arty ability which can take down emplacements.

so a well place pak43 can give your enemys a really bad day, certainly a this moment when nobody expect you to build a pak43. But you must always watchout for what commander your enemys are going, bcs if they have an offmap arty strike then is going for pak 43 really risky.

as for the rangers you can go for ostwind or flak truck since when they got smoke drops you need a really mobile anti-infantry unit bcs mg's have a hard time dodging smoke i guess. so for them I should go with the (maybe dubble) ostwind or okw flaq truck. but always keep them supported never leave them alone. im sorry for bad english but i hope this helped you a lot
30 Oct 2015, 10:37 AM
#3
avatar of Airborne

Posts: 281

It only got 800 hp and is realy not cheap.
A tiger and a AT gun work well against it. Our just a panther back up by at support.
30 Oct 2015, 10:42 AM
#4
avatar of Panzerschützen

Posts: 186

2 pak guns to counter Pershing reliably, nothing to counter Ranger+Pershing combo, sadly.
30 Oct 2015, 22:40 PM
#5
avatar of RottenJeeves

Posts: 91

2 pak guns to counter Pershing reliably, nothing to counter Ranger+Pershing combo, sadly.


Its almost like relic doesn't play test this stuff....huh...interesting.
2 Nov 2015, 08:25 AM
#6
avatar of Plaguer

Posts: 498

Depending on the game mode you're playing Tiger or a Pak43 works well, if it's a 2v2 or up you can safely go for an elefant, but for the most part tiger works well since pershing is pretty bad and you can just have your paks keep back the jacksons and the pershing while your sniper and tiger are smashing the rangers
2 Nov 2015, 08:55 AM
#7
avatar of AngryKitten465

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The Pershing comes pretty late for what it can offer at vet 0. With that being said, you can have double stugs out that can counter it fairly easy, you can have double pak 40s out that can counter it fairly easy, you can have multiple teller mines on important road junctions or chokepoints that in combination with a single or double pak 40 can counter it fairly easy.

If the game has gone good enough, long enough, you can always tech for a Panther. Panther beats the Pershing 1 on 1. Supported by a single pak 40 or single stug plus teller mines, the Perhsing will never get through.
2 Nov 2015, 09:21 AM
#8
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

Pak 40's, Pak 43's, Panther, Tiger, King Tiger are a great counter to it. It's as Angry Kitten says pretty easy to counter.
3 Nov 2015, 21:54 PM
#9
avatar of Soheil

Posts: 658

indeed tiger and panther counter it,but u can make 2stugs vs pershing and 1 ostwind vs ranger ;)
5 Nov 2015, 22:21 PM
#10
avatar of Mattikush

Posts: 43



Its almost like relic doesn't play test this stuff....huh...interesting.


:guyokay:
5 Nov 2015, 22:47 PM
#11
avatar of Wygrif

Posts: 278

A well microed sniper will garden up the Rangers pretty good. If that's not working for you, an Ostwind will do it, too. Two paks and target weak point will make short work of the Pershing. Just be sure to spread them out enough that smoke won't get both.


IMO this is one of the better balanced doctrines to be added. Not nearly as problematic as rifle. Or elite troops/industry in their heyday.
5 Nov 2015, 22:48 PM
#12
avatar of Kubelecer

Posts: 403

Anti tank
6 Nov 2015, 20:27 PM
#13
avatar of Casparitus

Posts: 154 | Subs: 2

Anti tank


Incredible advice!.. :j
7 Nov 2015, 07:01 AM
#14
avatar of __deleted__

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Tiger , double stug , panther , 2 paks and of course lot of teller mines counter all USA vehicles pretty well (pershing does not have even crit repair).

Rangers are weak. Keep in mind that he invest 400 MP and 90 munnition into weaker / as strong as shocktroopers.

They des not have smoke - only doctrinal , and that means mg is great agains them , because if the want to win this engangement they need to use 50 munny.

Also doeble grens with lmg do wonders agains them as lon as you keep them long range behind cover .

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