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23 Sep 2015, 01:57 AMAlexzandvar

Ostheer T3 doesn't include rocket artillery. Perhaps the fix here might be moving the Pwerfer to T3?

Thing is, UKF, USF, Soviets, and OKW all have the ability in a match to access their entire unit tree but Ostheer for some reason is the exception. The whole "bonus tier" myth makes no sense because nothing in Ostheer T4 is actually more powerful than what other factions get over the period of a normal game anyway.

Everything in T4 is expensive, you won't be seeing any Panther or Sturmpanzer IV spam even if you make T4 cheaper to acquire.

Regardless Ostheer T3 is suffering heavily now because by the time it hits the field it's been countered to death.

I agreed.Ostheer T3 suffers. But Ostheer T4 is so expensive to tech to. There's no need for seting an extra 45+75=120 fuel to tech to T4 when they really need T3 units to counter the light armors or mediums. Not to mention the GREAT T4 Brumbar cost 480 MP and 160 fuel...It's more expensive than 1600 HP churchill...GREAT JOB FOR RELIC!

Ostheer lacks a whole 'light-armor' tech but are given an extra no-one-bulid T4 in 1v1 games.T1+T2 suffers vs light armor rushing while T3 suffers from other facion medium tech.

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I did suggest moving the panzerwerfer to HQ and unlock with BP3 upgrade (the one required for t4). That way, Ost arty is gated but available regardless if the player goes T3 or T4

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22 Sep 2015, 22:38 PMBeefSurge

Average effectiveness in all game modes, best to worst.

Ostheer
Soviets
OKW
USF
Brits

Putting OKW above USF, lol

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23 Sep 2015, 02:30 AMMr. Someguy

That's a small price to pay when you have such a damaging and durable vehicle. Compared to it's counterparts, the M36 and Firefly, only the Comet can call itself superior, mostly due to being multi-role and still able to battle Panthers.

The OKW P4 is much stronger than the Ostheer version, and is cheaper than the Panther. This is a lot of incentive for OKW to use it.

I've advocated this for awhile now, actually.

It's certainly much more powerful than USF T3 and Soviet T4, OKW and Brits can match it but it's risky, just like teching to Ost T4 is risky.

It's expensive, but it snowballs. And it'd be better to fix T3 than to give them an easy T4 to dominate with.

But it's damage is the worst part about it? It has the lowest DPS of any tank in the game next to the Firefly. And the biggest issue is it doesn't snowball because by the time you get a single Panther out it's way, way to late to reverse the course of the battle.

Theres no way Ost with cheaper T4 would "dominate", since each individual unit IN T4 is still very very expensive.