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Do my thoughts fit the current balance situation
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21 Sep 2015, 10:45 AM
#1
avatar of Highfiveeeee

Posts: 1740

Hello guys!

I haven't played this game for about 2 months because honestly I was just sick of it.
I am a hothead and I get very salty if my enemy beats me with something I consider abusive.
The rank system doesn't help either and so I fell many ranks because I had some bad days.

You may ask 'why is he telling that?'. It's because I wanted to do some kind of social experiment.
I haven't played the game but I read about it on this board every day.
I want to write down what I am thinking about the game right now without having a game in > 2 months.
The use of this is to see how 'biased' this board is. I just write what I have been reading the past months without even knowing if it's true or completely wrong.

You can add then your comments what is wrong and what is not.

I take a look at my thoughts for every of the meanwhile 5 factions starting with the newest.
So let's start:


UKF



  • UKF commandos are pretty OP. They kill everything in seconds, faster than shock troops.
  • Gammon bombs are satchels you cannot dodge.
  • Bofors is a SchwPzHQ on steroids. You see it - your squad is dead
  • Churchill Croco is the fourth horseman of the apocalypse. You cannot kill it but it burns your army to ashes in seconds.
  • UKF sniper is garbage
  • UKF suck in 1v1 because they bleed way too much MP to stay competitive.
  • Brace makes your emplacements literally invulnerable.
  • Churchill AVRE wrecks everything
  • Sherman Firefly's Tulips are extremely potent. Otherwise the tank sucks.
  • Gliders destroy OKW trucks.
  • Vickers MG is a gamebraker as its range is bugged.
  • UKF air superiority is still crucial


Soviets



  • M5 Quad is a beast. It suppresses and kills in a second.
  • Partisans. I don't have to say anything. I've seen the videos.
  • Guards seem to be fine now? They were pretty OP back in the days.
  • Soviets have to tech T1/T2 -> T3 -> T4 ?
  • T34/85 is no call in anymore
  • Penals still suck
  • SU-85 still sucks
  • ML-20 is pretty strong and seen much more often
  • SU-76 is overperforming


USF



  • Rifles have a much better lategame
  • Flak HT can fire 360 noscope
  • Easy Eight is much better than before
  • Jacksons suck
  • Sherman is much better than before
  • Flamethrower Rifles wreck everything
  • Captain is very strong because his bazookas tend to snipe units


Ostheer



  • Sniper is still strong against UKF but got nerfed
  • Mortar is useless
  • Early pak is extremely important
  • Double 222 is favoured by many players
  • 222 doesn't need an upgrade
  • Ostwind sucks
  • Tiger is pretty good again
  • Elefant is op (wtf?)
  • MG is in the HQ now and costs more while doing less
  • StuG is useless again because of the TWP nerf
  • LeFH is somehow useful again
  • Panther is absolutely necessary atm (mostly against the British Churchills)


OKW



  • Volksgrenadiere are the weakest main infantry by far
  • Fast (second or third unit) Raketenwerfer is essential against British Universal Carriers
  • LeIG is amazing now
  • Medic HQ is the new meta
  • Overall the weakest faction in the game right now
  • Incendiary grenades are op



So these are the things I've caught up in the forum in the last weeks.
Which of them are true and which ones aren't?
Tell me in the comments!
21 Sep 2015, 15:50 PM
#2
avatar of Keaper!
Donator 11

Posts: 135

Well, that is pretty good summary of the way the winds are blowing in the balance forums but I'm not sure it's all that accurate. Forum warriors are a fickle bunch and tend to both exaggerate changes and be the most vocal about it.

Some examples:
- UKF sniper is useful but situational
- M15 AA HT is marginally better but still not a good purchase in most cases
- OH mortar is still ok, but situational
- OKW is not the weakest faction, it's getting picked plenty as having decent success in OCF
21 Sep 2015, 17:58 PM
#3
avatar of RMMLz

Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1



^ ^
Those are my humble opinions as an average player, might be right might be wrong.

Well written post... after 2 months. I found many of your point right on the spot. The game is at a very fucked up state if you ask me, even with the hotfix. The amount of cheese is just too damn high and it stinks (no pun intended). Also the blobbing is back.

One more thing:


PS: I think a lot of people voted "No" because you've offended their beloved faction with one or two balance issues.
21 Sep 2015, 18:16 PM
#4
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

Thing is, most things got adjusted with the last patch. Although as a description of what's going on in the forums is pretty accurate.
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