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Man, I have faced 3+ SU-76 and they wrecked all armor and support weapons. The guy I faced had spot on micro tho.
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Aralepus: If we're going to go the historical/realistic route when it comes to penetration its worth noting that there is no side armor in the game, and the SU76 could reliably penetrate side and rear armor. If it shouldn't penetrate front armor of these tanks how should this be compensated in terms of game mechanics? =)
Even though I feel the whole realism argument is null and void for this game.
VonIvan: If you think the SU-76 is OP, try spamming shreks and AT-guns with a little puma or Panther support. I hear it works wonders.
Thats a lot of manpower investment into AT haha.Wingzero: If we were to reduce the penetration, SU-76 will be a underused unit again and we don't want that. The only thing we need to do is increase it's cost and that is it. The biggest problem facing SU-76 is the blob factor.
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Well what I can recommend vs 3+ SU-76 is if OKW cloak raketens and slowly push up to snipe the SU-76s one by one with volk shrek blob or Puma/Panther to support.
If Pr0stheer, triple paks + lmg gren blob + whatever armor you have to rekt all dem Su-76s
Heck even a pak43 wouldn't be a bad idea.
If he's barraging move in with armor to hit him while he's not firing AP rounds.
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Er, no it won't. Assuming the SU-76 can still deal with medium tanks adequately after the nerf, for a tank that comes at the time it does, it'll still have unparallelled AI and AT.
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Been playing a bit of OKW of late and since SU-76 was moved to T3, it has been spammed a lot.
I get prior to July 21st SU-76s were very underplayed and it may be able to work at tier 3, but I'm not complaining about that. (Definitely strong for Soviets)
I'm complaining about the ridiculous Penn the SU-76 has. When I try to send a Panther against SU-76 packs, they seem to cut through the armour like butter.
I just find it ridiculous that a low velocity 76mm she'll can go through a Panther frontally.
Any thoughts on this? I'd like to see how you Axis players handle SU-76s
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you may find funny that alot of 76mm guns penetrating a panther but i also find funny that units with bigger guns(on the allied side)performe worse then they should(is-2 122mm gun cant penetrate relianly the panther).
Apart from that the su-76 has ALOT of weakness like low health,low armor,low damage,awful AI(the barrage is unreliable at long range and at close range is very vulnerable to enemy AT),low range.its in a very good spot and doesnt need ANY price increase or nerfs to its penetration and it should be common sense NOT TO CHARGE a lone panther or any tank against a wall of tank destoyers.
If you still think the tanks needs nerfs then i would suggest you play ATLEAST 40 games as soviets and get a taste of its performens from their perspective and tell us about your expiriance.
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One Su-76 is not a problem at all, when they are bunched in a group they are deadly. Increasing the price will allow the player to field limited numbers of them. As of now, 3 SU-76 is a better option than building T-34/76s.
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Don't ppl ever look at stats if they're provided?
Common sense also tells me that 76mm guns shouldn't reliably Penn Panthers from the front, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to fit 85mm guns on tanks and TDs kn 1944/1945.
When I play Soviets, if I'm encountering Gean heavy armour, I try to do something called flanking and hitting it with combined arms/multiple directions/weight of numbers. If I'm really dealing with lots of heavy armour, I start building SU-85s.
Oh and maybe one shot with barrage may not be a problem but when you find 2-3 SU-76s barraging the same spot (common on 1v1 with smaller maps) it tends to squad wipe reliably, nothing wrong with barrage, its annoying but I'm prepared to live with that.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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My point at the end of the day is there is no gun in the world that has excellent AI and AT performance, especially in WW2. The higher the AT performance, the worse the AI performance. You can't fit a lot of High Explosive in a high velocity round.
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My point at the end of the day is there is no gun in the world that has excellent AI and AT performance, especially in WW2. The higher the AT performance, the worse the AI performance. You can't fit a lot of High Explosive in a high velocity round.
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you don't need a high velocity round for anti-tank work if your shell is heavy enough. This is why the soviet gun have comically large caliber. Their gun design went for increasingly heavy shell instead of higher velocity.
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.The only thing the KT has going for it, is its large health pool and good gun. Posts: 1063
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