T-34 needs a buff
7 Jun 2015, 09:53 AM
#21
Posts: 1217
Imo the T-34/76 should be switched with the T-34/85. Guards motor now calls in a T-34/76 at about 6 CPs while the T-34/85 can be built for 130 fuel without choosing a doctrine.
7 Jun 2015, 10:03 AM
#22
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
Just give them slightly better AI firepower. Either via buffing the MGs or buffing the main gun by slightly decreasing scatter or slightly changing the AoE profile of the shell so it has a bigger area where it does significant damage to infantry.
There is no need for any other changes as the AT capabilities of the T34/76 are fine at the moment. For this reason, I also disagree with a price drop as it would make the T34/76 vs P4/P5/P6 match-ups imbalanced in the T34/76 favor.
There is no need for any other changes as the AT capabilities of the T34/76 are fine at the moment. For this reason, I also disagree with a price drop as it would make the T34/76 vs P4/P5/P6 match-ups imbalanced in the T34/76 favor.
7 Jun 2015, 10:11 AM
#23
Posts: 380
Ehm no, in 2013 it was a ramming machine before a buff, now its a tank that need to fight, but nowadays it's kinda useless because of accuracy and cost. A buff or a cost change will be nice.
Or give its old Ram back, man i miss the old Ramming ability, once i Had a Game there is 12 tanks disabled in a small forest area it start a panther try to flank got Rammed their tank rush to aid and we rammed all 1 by 1 so my teammate and I rammed our 6 T34/76 with 6 P4/Panther and 1 remaining T34/76 is trying to finish the job and both side infantry fighting heavily around it and CE and Pios both try to repair their own tanks under fire and both side is throwing off map art on that small area, it was so fun.
7 Jun 2015, 10:27 AM
#24
Posts: 476
Just give "bugged" rof back. Or increase accutary vs infsntry
7 Jun 2015, 10:38 AM
#25
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Give it better AI in the form of improved MGs or just revert the RoF fix.
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7 Jun 2015, 10:44 AM
#26
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T34/76 it's fine considering price vs performance. Next topic.
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A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
7 Jun 2015, 10:59 AM
#27
Posts: 1617
Imo the T-34/76 should be switched with the T-34/85. Guards motor now calls in a T-34/76 at about 6 CPs while the T-34/85 can be built for 130 fuel without choosing a doctrine.
Sure mate; lets make the soviets even more powerful. Shocks in T0 maybe?
7 Jun 2015, 11:12 AM
#28
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Posts: 83
Soviets being OP has nothing to do with t-34. If you compare t-34 to p4 or sherman it's just a bad unit. bad vs tanks, bad vs infantry, bad vet, low survivability, not cheap.
7 Jun 2015, 11:34 AM
#29
Posts: 162
May i add that a buff for the t34 should also effect the kv1. This tank is nearly as expensive as a panther, but is slow as a KT and has zero AI or AT whatsoever
7 Jun 2015, 11:39 AM
#30
Posts: 1217
I think that would actually balance it. The Soviet player would have to build T3 in order to get a T-34/85.
Sure mate; lets make the soviets even more powerful. Shocks in T0 maybe?
Simply buffing the T-34/76 isn´t right either as that would offset the Panzer IV - T-34/76 balance. The T-34/85 would be more expensive than a buffed T-34/76. But seeing T-34/76 outperforming Panzer IVs would simply be silly. Also the T-34/76 in skilled hands can annihilate infantry, just drive over them.
7 Jun 2015, 11:46 AM
#31
Posts: 670
Sure mate; lets make the soviets even more powerful. Shocks in T0 maybe?
lmao
much of the power of soviet faction is because of t-34/85s, so what would adding them to the tech tree change? a player building many 85s has no fuel for a potential heavy, and there is not such a thing like doctrinal mark target
although guard army having access to worse equipment while being described as 'given the best equipment' is amusing though, not gonna happen imo
honestly i think after 23rd there will be much more different and important problems about soviet armor effectiveness
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
7 Jun 2015, 12:04 PM
#32
Posts: 987
Seriously who need sense here?
Volks popping screck from their ass?
M5 popping up a quad?
Weapon rack is locked forever unless commander approve?
MG34 shooting completely harmless popcorn?
Stuka used to drop fallshimmjager?
+1
I could see the T-34 being a bit cheaper and not destroying the game. but like 5 fuel less and 10MP less.
It's pretty bad unless you have several of them. But I don't know if reducing the cost would break balance.
Let's keep it constructive
7 Jun 2015, 14:03 PM
#33
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Posts: 551
May i add that a buff for the t34 should also effect the kv1. This tank is nearly as expensive as a panther, but is slow as a KT and has zero AI or AT whatsoever
Good point. It should get a pen buff
7 Jun 2015, 14:06 PM
#34
1 Posts: 551
lmao
much of the power of soviet faction is because of t-34/85s, so what would adding them to the tech tree change? a player building many 85s has no fuel for a potential heavy, and there is not such a thing like doctrinal mark target
although guard army having access to worse equipment while being described as 'given the best equipment' is amusing though, not gonna happen imo
honestly i think after 23rd there will be much more different and important problems about soviet armor effectiveness
If relic goin to nerf soviets I am outa here.
SU desperately needs a buff.
7 Jun 2015, 14:47 PM
#35
Posts: 1617
If relic goin to nerf soviets I am outa here.
I desperately need to L2P.
Fixed for ya!
7 Jun 2015, 15:08 PM
#36
Posts: 162
Fixed for ya!
You are wrong mate. All accusations of SU being OP derives from GMC/con control in 1v1 and to a degree 2v2. The stock army is just soo subpar to anything else....
On a side note: It's really obsolete to talk about that so close before the patch anyway
7 Jun 2015, 15:13 PM
#37
Posts: 1702
Those who say that soviets will get nerfed next patch know nothing, just saying 
Either that or they are delusional
Or maybe they are actually in the actual alpha, not the shit that closed last week
Either that or they are delusional
Or maybe they are actually in the actual alpha, not the shit that closed last week
7 Jun 2015, 15:19 PM
#38
Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3
Those who say that soviets will get nerfed next patch know nothing, just saying
Either that or they are delusional
Or maybe they are actually in the actual alpha, not the shit that closed last week
full denial
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7 Jun 2015, 15:26 PM
#39
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full denial
Well, there are also those people who think soviets will get nerfed and are happy with the changes..
Too bad they dont really know what the actual imbalances were in the first place
7 Jun 2015, 15:48 PM
#40
Posts: 760
The t34 is just bad unit period, making it cheaper or reverting its old rof back isn't going to make it a better tank to use its stuck in a shit tier, with a faction with the worst teching in the game. This just goes back to the fact the soviets need a complete tech over haul
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