I will say that double jacksons is very hard to deal with. Add in a scott and your supporting riflemen. You can't really simply just compensate with shrecked infantry because the scott, just like the jackson is extremely cost effective and therefore share great synergy with each other.
Panther i'd say is the only real way to deal with a jackson. Infantry if your opponent isn't quite that good. ATleast in the late game. Early game you can bum rush it while you still have the edge, but nothing trades well against a jackson and the cumulative and reliable damage it causes to you over time will put you on the backfoot. Its almost like the obersoldaten of tank destroyers.
Not gonna say its OP except for the AP rounds, but its the best TD in the game pound for pound.
Jackson spam
10 Jun 2015, 15:29 PM
#181
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1337 h4X0R, dank memes
axis
11 Jun 2015, 03:37 AM
#182
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Not gonna say its OP except for the AP rounds, but its the best TD in the game pound for pound.
jp4
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
11 Jun 2015, 07:20 AM
#183
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BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
11 Jun 2015, 07:28 AM
#184
Posts: 1653
Ummm... Yea Get it to vet 2 or higher and you'll be bombarded by epicness
11 Jun 2015, 08:07 AM
#185
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There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
11 Jun 2015, 08:38 AM
#186
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BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
11 Jun 2015, 14:51 PM
#187
Posts: 1484
I will say that double jacksons is very hard to deal with. Add in a scott and your supporting riflemen. You can't really simply just compensate with shrecked infantry because the scott, just like the jackson is extremely cost effective and therefore share great synergy with each other.
This strategy requires tremendous amount of micro, the average player will have a difficult time kiting with scott/Rifiles and pulling Jacksons back from Shreks.
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11 Jun 2015, 15:29 PM
#188
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This strategy requires tremendous amount of micro, the average player would give up and play axis.
fixed that for you
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
11 Jun 2015, 15:42 PM
#189
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This strategy requires tremendous amount of micro, the average player will just go Soviets and full call in meta
fixed that for you
FTFY
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Jun 2015, 16:01 PM
#190
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This strategy requires tremendous amount of micro, the average player will gren blob into tiger spam
FTFY
fixed that for you
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
11 Jun 2015, 16:03 PM
#191
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Permanently BannedStill worse than the supreme t2 into dual is2 or t1 into guard+120+t34s
1337 h4X0R, dank memes
axis
11 Jun 2015, 16:36 PM
#192
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This strategy requires tremendous amounts of micro, the average player will come to the forums to whine about how OP the other faction is.
/thread
/thread
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Jun 2015, 16:38 PM
#193
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
This strategy requires tremendous amounts of micro, the average player will come to the forums to whine about how OP the other faction is.
It's like you're staring directly into my soul
11 Jun 2015, 18:01 PM
#194
Posts: 1162
Best way to deal with Jackson is same way as Snipers, use shot blockers to prevent it from kiting.
And they could just fix USA pop cap abuse by giving the vehicle crews themselves the same pop cap as their tank, so when they exit, nothing would change..
And they could just fix USA pop cap abuse by giving the vehicle crews themselves the same pop cap as their tank, so when they exit, nothing would change..
11 Jun 2015, 18:07 PM
#195
Posts: 670
And they could just fix USA pop cap abuse by giving the vehicle crews themselves the same pop cap as their tank, so when they exit, nothing would change..
And when you lose the vehicle with crew outside, you are stuck with 0 dps shit unit
We've been through this multiple times.
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
11 Jun 2015, 18:56 PM
#196
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Pak spam OP. 
11 Jun 2015, 19:04 PM
#197
Posts: 987
And when you lose the vehicle with crew outside, you are stuck with 0 dps shit unit
We've been through this multiple times.
Seems like a fitting result of losing your vehicle with the crew outside.
You can always banzai them into the MG42s. I don't really see a problem with the crews having high popcap. They can even keep their veterancy for the next vehicle. If they have no vet - kamikaze!!1!
Let's keep it constructive
11 Jun 2015, 19:48 PM
#198
Posts: 862
Best way to deal with Jackson is same way as Snipers, use shot blockers to prevent it from kiting.
And they could just fix USA pop cap abuse by giving the vehicle crews themselves the same pop cap as their tank, so when they exit, nothing would change..
I am not sure how the current meta truly stacks up... but prior to this patch it was certainly the case that a full 100 pop US late game army was not going to stand up to a 100 pop axis army with much more survivable heavies. harden the cap and you probably have to lower the pop cost and upkeep of US units.
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