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Anyway, whatever, after the end of this month, OKW will be nerfed even below ground. No more truck push, screcks become sucks, Ober becomes trash, etc. And USF will become OP like crazy, best Allies fanboy wet dream will come true.
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So essentially, it'll be like trying to play against the OKW is now?
About turn someone else had a turn.
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Maybe i haven't received the memo, but has someone on this forum inherit nullist/cannonade spirit ?
@Porygon how bad is it gonna be ? Gren/pio spam patch like ?
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USF have so many ways to kill it... Mortars, AT gun without resigning from MH and AT mines, cheap pack howie.
And it's not easy even for Soviets.
I saw a game Paula vs Jesulin (I guess) on Kholodny.
Very good etc but that's not the point.
The point is, once Schwerer was built, there was not chance for Jesulin to take cut off.
Once or twice he manage to get fuel but it;s only because Schwerer vision was blocked by trees.
He was not able to kill it, he was not able to cut off, while he did not have anything to prevent his cut off like OKW can.
No place to shoot with AT gun, and mortaring takes ages.
And you want to tell me, that Schwerer is not a problem?
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Balancing isn't A patch A OP, B patch B OP, but it's Relic logic anyway.
I won't give a shit to OKW anymore, because next patch they are unplayable.
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ITT: Players too lazy / stupid to build an AT gun. Or use smoke + demo / satchel charges.
The schwerer was buffed after the alpha changes, it's a faction strength of the OKW. But allies fanboys fail to understand that.
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Satchels + Smoke requires T1 and T2 and three squads of penals and well over 100 munitions
AT guns require LoS (enjoy getting your spotter murdered) or are going to miss 24/7 and the OKW player has bloody hours to bring troops over to just repair it, or beat off the offensive.
We know damn well it's a strength. What we ask is why the hell they get it for teching when nobody else gets such a thing and it's so much anathema to the game design, ruins gameplay and has no justifiable reason to exist now OKW are not required to lock down sectors for resource income.
Even tanks get ruined by the almighty effort of just placing a Racketenwerfer on perma flack truck guard duty.
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At Guns take out schwerer HQ with attack ground 100 % you don't need a spotter.
You can use two combat engineers + a mortar. Or you can use a decoy tank and two engineers. So or so it's the T4 building and shouldn't be taken out easily when placed defensive. 120 munitions is a pretty cheap price to destroy that building, but you fail to see that.
You can use a sherman tank (smoke) + paratroopers, major artillery, assault engineers. It's easy to take out that building, therefore it was buffed after WFA was released.
The problem is that the vanilla factions have no teching features. USF get free squads, OKW get's utility buildings. Rather than nerfing the new factions, the old factions could need some love.
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At Guns take out schwerer HQ with attack ground 100 % you don't need a spotter.
You can use two combat engineers + a mortar. Or you can use a decoy tank and two engineers. So or so it's the T4 building and shouldn't be taken out easily when placed defensive. 120 munitions is a pretty cheap price to destroy that building, but you fail to see that.
You can use a sherman tank (smoke) + paratroopers, major artillery, assault engineers. It's easy to take out that building, therefore it was buffed after WFA was released.
The problem is that the vanilla factions have no teching features. USF get free squads, OKW get's utility buildings. Rather than nerfing the new factions, the old factions could need some love.
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So essentially, it'll be like trying to play against the OKW is now?
About turn someone else had a turn.
Maybe i haven't received the memo, but has someone on this forum inherit nullist/cannonade spirit ?
@Porygon how bad is it gonna be ? Gren/pio spam patch like ?
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Using AT guns to take out shwerer panzer HQ with ground attack is very risky, and also very unreliable. Since alot of maps have alot of random terrain bumps and differences in height,unless you can see the shwerer panzer HQ, it will often hit the ground.
More so, obers will very easily wipe an at gun from the front due to AT gun cover being bugged right now, basically AT gun cover right now does not apply from the front, but only to the sides of the at gun.
Now of course, vet 1 USF at gun ability gives the AT gun 70 range and also 70 field of vision, while smart use of a t-70 + zis-3 can indeed destroy a shwerer panzer HQ. However, this is not easy to coordinate and like i said, can very easily backfire and is a huge risk.
Im sorry, but you are like Kronosaurus.
Your card tells us everything about how many times you faced schwerer.
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At Guns take out schwerer HQ with attack ground 100 % you don't need a spotter.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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When you start talking about Obers you imply that you face a combined arms force trying to repel your attack on the schwerer HQ. That's a completely different case. Why shouldn't beat Obers + Schwerer your at gun? If you want to take out combined arms forces, you need some of your own. Schwerer Panzer HQ, don't withstand a combined arms attack.
If you don't have arguments, just stay quiet and don't rely on Ad Hominem arguments, that's just low class. Even so, by simply addition you could realize I faced OKW over 100 times at least. Not to mention how often I play OKW and witnessed getting a Schwerer Panzer HQ get easily taken out by good players.
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By saying it's so easy etc you are proving that you are pro axis. Well placed Schwerer is very, very hard to deal with it. End of story.
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By saying it's so easy etc you are proving that you are pro axis. Well placed Schwerer is very, very hard to deal with it. End of story.
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ITT: Players too lazy / stupid to build an AT gun. Or use smoke + demo / satchel charges.
The schwerer was buffed after the alpha changes, it's a faction strength of the OKW. But allies fanboys fail to understand that.
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Getting a 120 or pack howie is very hard, okay.
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