ostheer CAS overperforming.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 13:25 PMAlexzandvar

How is the StuG E overpowered, other than being a good blobbing punisher?

It's the most fragile Axis medium in the game.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 13:28 PMBurts

It comes very early, and with any other doctrine, stalling for callins has one major weakness, you have nothing until the heavy hits the field. With this doctrine, you save an insane amount of fuel and can get a tiger in time, while having good mid game as well.

The stug E constantly oneshots and two shots squads, it will often win vs a USF at gun in 1v1 and it completely fucks up the mid game.


2x PaKs played accordingly can keep out any medium tank.


It's like getting a better t-70 without paying the 120 fuel cost for teching up.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 13:32 PMAlexzandvar

So your rational is that because it isn't overpriced and can with some luck kill an AT gun means it's overpowered?

And at 6 CP that isn't early, that's just slightly before most mediums will start hitting the field.

It (rarely) oneshot squads yes, but this goes for every anti-infantry tank in the game.

So what if you save a lot of fuel? Almost all Ostheer players will anyway because teching these days is often pointless.

And comparing this to the t-70 is stupid, one's a light recon can and the other is an assault gun with no turret. And the fact most call ins are heavies is a problem with heavies, not the StuG Ausf E.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 13:34 PMBurts

Meh, talking to you is pointless since the STUG-E is inevitably getting nerfed next patch.... That or the patch after it.


Someone lock this thread please.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 13:34 PMBurts

Meh, talking to you is pointless since the STUG-E is inevitably getting nerfed next patch.... That or the patch after it.


Someone lock this thread please.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 13:45 PMAladdin

Really? who told u this?

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 14:25 PMAlexzandvar

Makes me laugh tho, "Mmm yes this faction which is currently the worst in the game. Lets take one of the few remaining good cost effective units it has and nerf it, this is a smart plan"

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 15:39 PMAssaultPlazma

Its a doctrine based call in unit. Using this logic Greyhound Canister shouldnt be nerfed because the doctrine as a whole is lackluster

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 18:33 PMpigsoup

i used the cheatcommand mod while playing ostheer + cas commander.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 18:36 PMJHeartless

I do too but the single pass strafe seems to be the Original Single pass strafe from when it was released not the Post AT Skillplane buff variety. I.e. not doing shit for damage. Rather then the one hit wonder pass if you dont GTFO.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 18:58 PMpigsoup

you mean loitering JU87 AT strafe has post buff payload and single pass JU87 AT strafe has pre buff payload?

i think they are the same. spread and damage wise.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 19:01 PMJHeartless

I cant get that in the cheatmod. I can leave a Sherman in the CAS Strafe and not kill it but the Loiter will one hit it everytime. Maybe something else is at play but I dont think the Mod is working 100% with Everything in game right now.

Feel free to try it. Spawn a neutral tank (so it wont move) call in the CAS strafe in on it then do the same with the Loiter then youll see what I mean.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 19:04 PMpigsoup

tried it only with CAS using the mod on t34/76 like 30 times.

one shots it like 7~8 times out of 10 in my experience.

p.s. neutral? i set the possession to enemy status.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 19:09 PMJHeartless

Thats odd I was using Shermans maybe its Penetration values are off? Sherman having better armor.

I tried with setting it to enemy owned but the AI is a god of moving out the way of strafes so I just got frustated and left it Neutral so it woulndt move and tried it about a Dozen times only got one Sherman kill on Minsk (sometimes it was the trees other times it would eat the full strafe)

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2015, 19:19 PMpigsoup

oh. just turn the AI off man. it is like 4th or 5th button on the first slide(?) of commands