the medics and repair dudes should be purchable/upgradeable.
maybe even make them be purchased one by one to a maximum of "x"
OKW Repair Speed
7 Nov 2014, 04:10 AM
#41
Posts: 589
maybe even make them be purchased one by one to a maximum of "x"
7 Nov 2014, 04:41 AM
#42
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
The point has been made by other guys. Stpios are very expensive, die quite fast (specially under enemy fire) and you have to use them in the front lines unlike other builder units.
If you provide a replay, there are many pro strategists here willing to help.
Byt the way The most ridiculous thing is the Doctrinal "Conscript repair kit". 2 cons squad repair a heavily damaged ISU in no time.
do they tend to commit suicide when not under enemy fire? they need some therapists.
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7 Nov 2014, 07:58 AM
#43
Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1
do they tend to commit suicide when not under enemy fire? they need some therapists.
My bad, I meant while repairing under enemy fire. They also tend to bunch up and sometimes get one-shotted by indirect fire or a tank shot.
7 Nov 2014, 08:33 AM
#44
Posts: 170
OKW repairing needs a nerf for sure.
Heavy armor can just roll back and get in before your infantry has the time to retreat and get back to the front on most maps.
Heavy armor can just roll back and get in before your infantry has the time to retreat and get back to the front on most maps.
7 Nov 2014, 09:01 AM
#45
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
Many times I hit JT with 3vet B4 and it was like, OK, now I/we can push a little with KV1/Shermans. Pushed 1 point and JT showed up with ful health o.O It took 1 min to reapir from almost 0 to full.
Ostheer needs some buff.
Ostheer needs some buff.
7 Nov 2014, 13:14 PM
#46
Posts: 394
OKW have extremely potent repairs without giving anything up for it and on top of that, free repair station on cheapest in game tier building unlike all other armies which have no such convinience, you might want to attempt to compare it to USF, but they don't have super heavy armor they could bring up to full health in no time.
Katitof, you are so Allied bias it's no longer funny. You really need to be more objective instead of every single post complaining about poor Allies.
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Should i just attack move to get there? I might get there easier. Like sovs do
I don't like Soviet neither, but please cake, just fuck off back to the official noob forum.
Vetlolcake:
Should i just attack move to get there? I might get there easier. Like sovs do
7 Nov 2014, 13:43 PM
#47
Posts: 110
Different faction repair factors:
OKW:
+Sturmpio repair rate
-Sturmpio double cost
++Sturmpio minesweeper/repair upgrade and vet stack
++Repair truck
USF:
++Self-repair
+Instant crit repair
Soviet:
Ostheer:
ftfy
7 Nov 2014, 14:04 PM
#48
Posts: 85
Sturmpios repair rate should be down by 30/40%
And some people say "you can get 2 engineer for one Sturmpio to balance!!"
First, it's wrong (340 for 2 engineer vs 320)
+ Pioners gain repair speed with mine sweeper (Engineer can't)
So for 2 Pioneers squad you need 5/6 Engineer squad
And it's by FAR less penalizing to have 2 squad of pioneers than 5/6 squads of engineers.
At least Sturmpios can fight
So it needs an huge nerf asap.
And some people say "you can get 2 engineer for one Sturmpio to balance!!"
First, it's wrong (340 for 2 engineer vs 320)
+ Pioners gain repair speed with mine sweeper (Engineer can't)
So for 2 Pioneers squad you need 5/6 Engineer squad
And it's by FAR less penalizing to have 2 squad of pioneers than 5/6 squads of engineers.
At least Sturmpios can fight
So it needs an huge nerf asap.
7 Nov 2014, 16:06 PM
#49
Posts: 1158
is there not an upkeep penalty related to repair speed in this game? I think that worked well in coh1.
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
7 Nov 2014, 16:13 PM
#50
Posts: 1248
Sturmpios repair rate should be down by 30/40%
And some people say "you can get 2 engineer for one Sturmpio to balance!!"
First, it's wrong (340 for 2 engineer vs 320)
+ Pioners gain repair speed with mine sweeper (Engineer can't)
So for 2 Pioneers squad you need 5/6 Engineer squad
And it's by FAR less penalizing to have 2 squad of pioneers than 5/6 squads of engineers.
At least Sturmpios can fight
So it needs an huge nerf asap.
but Sturmpios are more expensive in every way. Kappa
7 Nov 2014, 21:47 PM
#51
Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3
Sturmpios repair rate should be down by 30/40%
And some people say "you can get 2 engineer for one Sturmpio to balance!!"
First, it's wrong (340 for 2 engineer vs 320)
+ Pioners gain repair speed with mine sweeper (Engineer can't)
So for 2 Pioneers squad you need 5/6 Engineer squad
And it's by FAR less penalizing to have 2 squad of pioneers than 5/6 squads of engineers.
At least Sturmpios can fight
So it needs an huge nerf asap.
why haven't you read my post on page 1?
Sturmpios popcap = 9 (repairs 3 health per sec)
Engi/Pio = 5 (repairs 1,4 health per sec)
You don't take into account that with two pios/engis you can cap 2 points at the same time, or lay two mines at the same time or repair while laying a mine/capping a point.
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8 Nov 2014, 01:20 AM
#52
Posts: 2742
I don't think it necessarily has to do with which factions get the best repair to manpower/pop cap ratio, but how the OKW faction appears to be noticeably more able to repair and return their heaviest units to the battlefield.
And this, I think, has to do with forward retreat points and sturmpioneers being effective frontline soldiers. It means that they're always going to be close at hand for any OKW player.
Ostheer and Soviets have to drag their engineers often from their base because every non-OKW faction's repairers are terrible in combat. And though the USF has forward retreat points, rear echelon can't stand up to anything, and they don't have anything substantial to repair in the first place.
Or perhaps OKW units could lose maximum health as they repair?
Regardless I honestly feel that ALL factions should have an at least minor manpower penalty for repairing.
And this, I think, has to do with forward retreat points and sturmpioneers being effective frontline soldiers. It means that they're always going to be close at hand for any OKW player.
Ostheer and Soviets have to drag their engineers often from their base because every non-OKW faction's repairers are terrible in combat. And though the USF has forward retreat points, rear echelon can't stand up to anything, and they don't have anything substantial to repair in the first place.
Or perhaps OKW units could lose maximum health as they repair?
Regardless I honestly feel that ALL factions should have an at least minor manpower penalty for repairing.
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8 Nov 2014, 02:54 AM
#53
Posts: 1248
sturmpios are close range units like assgrens except they cost more popcap
8 Nov 2014, 04:00 AM
#54
Posts: 4928
is there not an upkeep penalty related to repair speed in this game? I think that worked well in coh1.
Repair upkeep would hurt everything but heavy tanks.
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8 Nov 2014, 04:15 AM
#55
Posts: 1158
That doesn't make sense to me, can you elaborate?
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
8 Nov 2014, 04:36 AM
#56
Posts: 32
Repair upkeep would hurt everything but heavy tanks.
for same health tanks it would cost the same upkeep, for lower health tanks it would cost less but there are some mediums with similar health to heavies, perhaps a cost per HP*armour might work
8 Nov 2014, 05:22 AM
#57
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
Permanently Bannedsturms rep to fast...
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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