Soviet T1 unbeatable?
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OKW suffers against all units because IMO penals are ridiculously strong. Their additional two men just break the neck of the volksgrens.
M3 kills everything and uncaps your fuel and there is literally nothing you can do against it in the first few minutes (especially with flamer).
Snipers are snipers don't want to write anything because everybody knows how they are.
Is ist pure l2p or am I somehow right about T1 being a little bit OP?
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Their additional two men
Just get a Luchs or Puma....or wait for the Volks until 90munis....
T1 seriously isn't that hard to kill
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I love to use flamer m3 vs okw myself. Its so much fun...
Consider either getting a raketen or a Schreck.
Snipers are snipers. There is no real counter to them. Which is why they are so much fun vs OKW.
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Penals fight the same way conscripts do; they have to close in but dont do any real damage unless they have flamers. Keep your distance and let them walk into your sturmpio.
M3 can terrorize you yes but as long as you screen your mgs with faust or your kubel with sturmpios he can't really push in and kill anything.
With okw your first munitions should always be a schrek which makes the m3 thinkg twice about going in.
lastly snipers, 1 sniper is no problem but double snipers is extremely hard to kill. we never really manage to kill the snipers against good players until lucky stuka/mortar shots or luchs flanks. I see it more as enduring in the beginning, keep your squads close together but soviet snipers are just stupid design with 2 men and sprint
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[...]penals are ridiculously strong. Their additional two men just break the neck of the volksgrens.
Katitof gonna love this thread.
Volks cost 235 while penals cost 270.
Volks are 5 man squad, penals - 6 man. "additional two men"?
Try to hold less than a half of the map, but keep your squads close enough to fend off that M3A1 armored car if it run into your guys.
Use kubel + sturmpios against penals.
Rush to puma or luchs because soviet T1 has absolutely no AT capabilities.
Luchs especially good against sniper spam while it is still capable to take down M3A1.
Watch for mines. Upgrade at least one minesweeper after you get your first panzerschrek.
Don't chase enemy with your light vehicles though obvious mining positions or places where you've spotted Combat Engineers before.
Fallschimjaegers is another great option against snipers, but they are somewhat map dependant.
EDIT: I should add that I've never played OKW
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Any chance of putting up at least one replay, please? It makes it so much easier, if we can see what is happening
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As Ostheer, vs M3/Penals, 4 Grens and MG42 into a scout car or Pak depending on map. Get LMGS and go to town.
As OKW, i'm not quite sure, have not played them enough, but a quick Flaktrack would help I imagine or just hold out with Volks/Sturms into shrecks and t4.
Hope that helps,
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Permanently Bannedsurvive the first 10 min. and ur good
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But honestly I really think that the Penalspam against axis is a bit too strong. Maybe it's bad luck but I always wonder why they receive so little damage. My grens and volksgrens seem to lose against Penals in every distance. And a Penalsquad is never alone.
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Of course, Soviet snipers are still bullshit, and T1+T2 into call-ins is broken. But T1 in itself is mostly fine.
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good sturmpio play is key to early game. seen too many players committing sturmpios into the fray only to retreat after getting focused down and leaving the kubel open to m3 at the point when volks dont have schrecks yet.
volks match conscripts and penals well at range and are cheaper than both of them and kubels swings ranged infantry play heavily into okw favour, just need to keep ur guys together and support each other.
then go luchs to end the infantry contest and watch him scramble for AT weapons.
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Just get a Luchs or Puma....or wait for the Volks until 90munis....
T1 seriously isn't that hard to kill
bro, what about GuardSSS strat? It's still unbeatable
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bro, what about GuardSSS strat? It's still unbeatable
or my variantion of it - the 4es SS . I have yet to lose a game with it.
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Guys I gotta apologise for my raging behavior creating this topic. Had a -15 streak and everybody knows how this feels I guess
But honestly I really think that the Penalspam against axis is a bit too strong. Maybe it's bad luck but I always wonder why they receive so little damage. My grens and volksgrens seem to lose against Penals in every distance. And a Penalsquad is never alone.
Everybofy tells you to use sturmpios and kubel, and you go on and on with your volksgrenadiers. Just listen to them, man.
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Soviet Snipers are cheese.
Make a small mistake with the Ost Sniper = lost sniper.
Make a mistake with the Soviet Sniper = it has good chances to get away.
This isn´t even offset by the faster ROF of the German sniper. Situations where the Soviet snipers escape horrible situations are standard gameplay. It´s frustrating.
This situation is even worse in 2v2s, where you can hide them behind your teammate. Here your best bet is getting them with a lucky mortar shell.
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This theorycraft helps little, if not allied to a replay of what the poster perceives to be a problem, (when often, it is not)
I am bound to say that I think this thread would have been better placed in OKW strategies.
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or my variantion of it - the 4es SS . I have yet to lose a game with it.
please elaborate
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Everybofy tells you to use sturmpios and kubel, and you go on and on with your volksgrenadiers. Just listen to them, man.
Haven't played again, lol.
And btw shall I always start with double Pio? No capping power ftw.
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T1 is pretty easy to counter with puma unless the enemy use guards.
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