Balance issues currently facing the game

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2014, 22:37 PMsteel

I agree with most of them except the Panzergrenadiers. If used well these guys are legendary. I have sent countless number of Riflemen, Conscripts, MG team, AT guns and mortars packing. I've only failed to send one squad packing. That was the shock troops squad

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2014, 23:06 PMThe_Courier

You do have to treat them with kid gloves until they reach vet 2, as they are quite fragile for their cost until then. But yeah, they can easily flank and turn a fight around. And once they get vet 3, with supporting LMG Grens? Let the carnage commence, nothing short of vet 3 Shocks or double 1919 Paras can survive.

Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2014, 18:13 PMCannonade

No offence, but thats rather ironic considering your playercard which is entirely Sov.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 01:44 AMQueenRatchet123

Yea! this game is favored against aXis RIGHT?

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2014, 23:06 PMThe_Courier

You do have to treat them with kid gloves until they reach vet 2, as they are quite fragile for their cost until then. But yeah, they can easily flank and turn a fight around. And once they get vet 3, with supporting LMG Grens? Let the carnage commence, nothing short of vet 3 Shocks or double 1919 Paras can survive.

Against shock troops I just tend to mix a flame pio among my Grens until they get their LMGs and vet.

Bottom line is, Ostheer is a very good faction that is solid at all stages of the game. They have a blind spot in T4 but if you play your cards right you don't really need it anyway.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 03:25 AMWarthrone

That has nothing to do with balance. You posting this is completely foolish. Its a combination of everyone likes playing the bad guy and also the boring nature of play for allied nations.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 04:35 AMKothre

Do you honestly believe that balance is not even a contributing factor? I understand wanting to play Axis because they are cool. I can understand a 60% margin for that reason. But literally 96% in 4v4 is 0% because of balance? The reason people don't want to play allies in team games is solely because they're not "cool" and not because of how utterly superior axis are in team games? Are you not willing to admit that it's at least a contributing factor?

Especially since your initial post is almost all buffs for Axis and nerfs for Allies, why would people not lean towards the faction that balance favors- especially only 4% of people?

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 04:24 AMausterlitz

Shock spam has seen a resurgence indeed.With lmg 42 grens being only ost inf in team games i see this is very brutal often.They close using the smoke grenade 2 shocks can in this way defeat 4 grens.As long as shocks force gren to move with smoke or grenade,they will comfy win that fight even if outnumbered 2 to 1.

My main issue with ostheer- total lack of late game armor options..wake me up when elfant and panther gets fixed.Add to that no infantry save grens.Till then enjoy maximspam and complain abt OKW,lol ..when everybody knows they are helpless vs snipers and struggle vs maxims.

Soviets are the most powerful and versatile faction atm by far,not OKW..because of the number of strategies they can employ using their commanders.Going t3 or t4 hardly makes a diff,as the commander choice dictates soviet gameplay.Americans are more balanced..except the 7 min halftrack and easy eight cost.Their AT gun could use a buff actually.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 04:40 AMWarthrone

Just because you take a screenshot for a slit second in time does not make it legit. I have just played now and its was 60% to axis 40% allies .This has nothging to do with balance anyhow. Its a stupid discussion.

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 04:47 AMKothre

It's usually always 60%-80%. 80% is still quite common, and that's a huge difference. You still didn't really answer my question. This game has thousands of players- do you believe that given the sample size, the only reason people overwhelmingly play Axis is because people like to play the bad guys, and that balance has no factor in this whatsoever?

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 01:44 AMQueenRatchet123

Yea! this game is favored against aXis RIGHT?

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 03:45 AMWarthrone

OH have no answer to shocks or guards atm. Pgs nerf just did it for them...

Jump back to quoted post8 Aug 2014, 05:02 AMWarthrone

Mate, if jesulin and Helping hans are struggling with soviet player 10 ranks lower. Then something is wrong. ATM balance is horribly scewed in favour of allies. Sovs due to diverse cheese tactics and units, and US in early game brute strength.

The % you mention is simply due to bordem with the faction. Sovs and Americans are very very boring to play and easy to use and have OP units. Its not a challenge, psychologically people would like to overcome difficulty so hence you are seeing more axis players.