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Former range-100-units

11 Jul 2014, 13:34 PM
#21
avatar of MorgolKing

Posts: 148

I think ISU, Elephant and even JagdTiger need a slight range increase. Making units that slow and then decreasing their range makes them unviable and the game less interesting.

11 Jul 2014, 14:07 PM
#22
avatar of Spin

Posts: 85

elefant is a good tool for scouting nowadays :P. But seriosuly it's still great when supported well. Too bad only in 4v4s could that really happen. Elefant really is a specialist tank and shouldn't be seen too often.
11 Jul 2014, 14:23 PM
#23
avatar of PanzerErotica

Posts: 135

For the spotting scope issue, I guess they could at least fix the issue of line of sight bonus disappearing when the elefant is rotating on spot.
11 Jul 2014, 17:33 PM
#24
avatar of DarthBong420

Posts: 381

the elephant is totally useless even in 4v4. pak43 is the biggest joke ever. meanwhile isu still rapes everything.
11 Jul 2014, 17:55 PM
#25
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

No not range,or it would start again..but elefant seriously need heavy price decrease to reflect the new reality of a highly vulnerable unit,especially since before the range nerf its HP was nerfed too.Its a 200 fuel odd worth unit if u want people to consider using it over tiger since its massively slow,and with introduction of bazooka squads and massive range decrease very very killable and does absolutely zero dmg to infantry.Otherwise this tank and commander is dead.
13 Jul 2014, 03:23 AM
#26
avatar of __deleted__

Posts: 236

Right now the elefant is really bad in 2v2s. I cant speak for other match ups. The range on it now for its price just does not compensate for its performance. Not only that, but the impact on MP income and pop.

If the community doesnt want more range on it again then it obviously needs to be given some other form of love, because its not good the way it is.
13 Jul 2014, 03:28 AM
#27
avatar of WiFiDi
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Posts: 3293

honestly i still think 70 range is to low for isu152 and elephant units. 75 to 85 would be a good place i feel.
13 Jul 2014, 03:35 AM
#28
avatar of Frencho

Posts: 220

The ISU-152 and the Elefant tank destroyer are just as slow as a Jagdtiger. Yet the latter one has 85 range and the 2 former ones 70 range.

That just 10 more range than an SU-85/Jackson/Panther(has 50 or 60? not sure...)!

For such slow turretless units, range is the only advantage they can get over tanks. You can reduce the prices of these heavy call-in TD units as much as you want if they keep 70 range, I'd rather spam the cheaper SU-85s, M36 Jacksons or Panthers as it's more cost efficient and effective, 2 is better than one in this case.

As Wifidi said 80 range seems the sweet spot to me.

PAK-43 should get 90 and a health buff.
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