April 24th Patch Notes Discussion
24 Apr 2014, 14:04 PM
#181
Posts: 1701
PGs will now drop like flies with 1 armor, lol.
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24 Apr 2014, 14:34 PM
#182
Posts: 1003
PGs will now drop like flies with 1 armor, lol.
You must now use cover and smart move. All infantry must.
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
24 Apr 2014, 14:36 PM
#183
Posts: 471
PGs will now drop like flies with 1 armor, lol.
Like every other infantry unit in the game other than shocks. PGs still use the best infantry weapon in the game and only lost a tiny amount of short range accuracy. They will still be great for flanking and clearing out support weapons and regular Soviet infantry, to say nothing of using the best infantry-based AT weapon in the game as well.
24 Apr 2014, 14:45 PM
#184
Posts: 503
erm...yes yes..whatever you say, human, whatever..
Ontopic: PaK43 fourth man is also great news, even if it is +1 man more to the crew, it adds a lot of survivability...hopefully it wont get wiped as easy as it was before the patch.
Also, why the nerf to the howitzers? OMG
As is stated before: Howitzers got their shots reduced to compensate changes in reload and aoe profiles. theyd be to strong firing their old number of shells per barrage
24 Apr 2014, 15:07 PM
#185
Posts: 412
Perhaps in the beta, after the changes to grens and scout cars, Pgrens came more prominent and warranted a wee nerf. Not in the beta myself, but otherwise, I don't think many were complaining about them.
To be fair, if they were in medium to close range they were a pretty efficient unit for cost I believe, as the original cost they had accounted for the fact that SMG troops get roughed up closing the distance. Would have preferred a cost increase myself rather then stats change.
Also, i'd love to see the option of a single shrek upgrade in the future for Pgrens, perhaps an option of a 120 muni cost for 2 shreks, or a 70 muni cost for a single one (means more bang for buck if you get the two shreks, but you are paying the opportunity cost.)
Aside from PGrens, I feel soviets should be even better on the urban maps now, which I hope is closely monitored by the balance team, as my initial gut feeling is, maps like Semosiy with plentiful shot blockers, cover and buildings will be tipped in soviet favor. Not sure how you address that though.
To be fair, if they were in medium to close range they were a pretty efficient unit for cost I believe, as the original cost they had accounted for the fact that SMG troops get roughed up closing the distance. Would have preferred a cost increase myself rather then stats change.
Also, i'd love to see the option of a single shrek upgrade in the future for Pgrens, perhaps an option of a 120 muni cost for 2 shreks, or a 70 muni cost for a single one (means more bang for buck if you get the two shreks, but you are paying the opportunity cost.)
Aside from PGrens, I feel soviets should be even better on the urban maps now, which I hope is closely monitored by the balance team, as my initial gut feeling is, maps like Semosiy with plentiful shot blockers, cover and buildings will be tipped in soviet favor. Not sure how you address that though.
24 Apr 2014, 15:13 PM
#186
Posts: 2561
Patch is up. Have fun everyone!
24 Apr 2014, 15:27 PM
#187
Posts: 119
Patch is up. Have fun everyone!
Noes! Stuck at work. First thing I try is a StuG with new mounted MG42.
24 Apr 2014, 15:29 PM
#188
Posts: 148
This patch is really lame. How many huge swings are we going to get in balancing?
We just hit the reset button every patch and we shouldn't be surprised when this leads to imba.
PGs are already a huge MP drain to reinforce b/c they are killed so easily. Now their armor is reduced even more?
Arty reload times are increased for whatever reason.
And generally I see German nerfs and Soviet buffs. When you buff one side and nerf the other, what do you think the end result will be? Just think last patch.
We just hit the reset button every patch and we shouldn't be surprised when this leads to imba.
PGs are already a huge MP drain to reinforce b/c they are killed so easily. Now their armor is reduced even more?
Arty reload times are increased for whatever reason.
And generally I see German nerfs and Soviet buffs. When you buff one side and nerf the other, what do you think the end result will be? Just think last patch.
24 Apr 2014, 15:45 PM
#189
10 Posts: 155
Fly train... fly... I need to download the PATCH!
24 Apr 2014, 15:54 PM
#190
Posts: 119
Quick, qumsieh is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a48ozpzxyvfe5k9/StatUI.jpg
when is the UI updated?
Great patch, have to play yet!
when is the UI updated?
Great patch, have to play yet!
24 Apr 2014, 16:07 PM
#191
Posts: 40
is this me or soviets are even harder to play now
and umm well this lend lease commander? where commander with bunkers and other stuff?
well Soviets won this war not because lend lease...
gameplay pretty same with march patch
and umm well this lend lease commander? where commander with bunkers and other stuff?
well Soviets won this war not because lend lease...
gameplay pretty same with march patch
Dawn of war 3 is next
24 Apr 2014, 16:09 PM
#192
Posts: 896
Quick, qumsieh is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a48ozpzxyvfe5k9/StatUI.jpg
when is the UI updated?
Great patch, have to play yet!
what is this, is it unit stats in game?
24 Apr 2014, 16:13 PM
#193
Posts: 119
what is this, is it unit stats in game?
I wish. This is a mockup I made during beta (alpha?). This explains the "old" values. Would like to see this instead of the big grey, empty box.
24 Apr 2014, 16:17 PM
#194
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
is this me or soviets are even harder to play now
and umm well this lend lease commander? where commander with bunkers and other stuff?
well Soviets won this war not because lend lease...
Its you.
Combat engie spam is not a valid strat.
Cons do fine job now.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
24 Apr 2014, 16:20 PM
#195
Posts: 896
I wish. This is a mockup I made during beta (alpha?). This explains the "old" values. Would like to see this instead of the big grey, empty box.
gj, and it would be awesome if it's implemented in game, but something tells me they will find a negative excuse like "confusing to average players".
24 Apr 2014, 16:26 PM
#196
Posts: 119
gj, and it would be awesome if it's implemented in game, but something tells me they will find a negative excuse like "confusing to average players".
But it is already an option (is it?). To enable the flavor text in the box or not. This turns the box from a fun facts box to an empy space at the moment. Could be a simple and advanced option. With easy/casual text (This is a heavy tank) or the exact number for advanced players or reference in replays and vods/shoutcasts.
24 Apr 2014, 16:43 PM
#197
Posts: 40
germans outspammed us with
op mass ostruppen
op killing all infantry ostwind
shitload of grens whos grenade killed like 4 of 6 guards
then machinegun pak43 that wiped my t34 85
il tryie to play with captain America saves damn commies commander but dshk sucks so hard...
OHH CANADA WHY WE LET YOU BE A COUNTRY?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQhuzzG5Bv0
op mass ostruppen
op killing all infantry ostwind
shitload of grens whos grenade killed like 4 of 6 guards
then machinegun pak43 that wiped my t34 85
il tryie to play with captain America saves damn commies commander but dshk sucks so hard...
OHH CANADA WHY WE LET YOU BE A COUNTRY?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQhuzzG5Bv0
Dawn of war 3 is next
24 Apr 2014, 16:50 PM
#198
4 Posts: 111
germans outspammed us with
op mass ostruppen
op killing all infantry ostwind
shitload of grens whos grenade killed like 4 of 6 guards
then machinegun pak43 that wiped my t34 85
il tryie to play with captain America saves damn commies commander but dshk sucks so hard...
OHH CANADA WHY WE LET YOU BE A COUNTRY?!
24 Apr 2014, 16:56 PM
#199
Posts: 1702
germans outspammed us with
op mass ostruppen
op killing all infantry ostwind
shitload of grens whos grenade killed like 4 of 6 guards
then machinegun pak43 that wiped my t34 85
il tryie to play with captain America saves damn commies commander but dshk sucks so hard...
OHH CANADA WHY WE LET YOU BE A COUNTRY?!
hahaha get out
what is wrong with you.
First of i would suggest you play the tutorial, it seems like you have forgot what "map control" or what is "infantry"
24 Apr 2014, 17:03 PM
#200
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Don't drink and post Angrycustomer !
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