Wehrmacht Flame halftrack.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2021, 08:54 AMJulianSnow

UC actually got an armor buff if you upgrade the wasp on it (or was that reverted??)

imo; scout car with flamer engineers is a lot more oppressive.

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2021, 10:31 AMvgfgff

scout car with flamer engineers need to engage at close range (< pzFasut range).
while FrameHT have around 40-50 fire range.

Jump back to quoted post23 Aug 2021, 11:57 AMXARDAS

In my 2k or so games with ,,top tier,, players I actually never saw a flame HT to have some kind of an imporant impact into game

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2021, 12:32 PMJulianSnow

well, at the time you get to see the 251 flamer you can also have a ZiS/6pdr/M1

Jump back to quoted post25 Aug 2021, 18:02 PMzarok47

Eh, it is too oppressive if you aren't prepared for it, but that description fits about every light vehicle/tank in this game.

At this point it's part of the game.

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 08:01 AMvgfgff

I already mentioned above that we're not talking about counter unit because any unit have counter.

Jump back to quoted post26 Aug 2021, 10:08 AMElpern

I wouldnt mind seeing an increase to the targetsize as a nerf, same goes for a lot of other vehicles such as m20, m17 I think?(m5+quad), 221, 222, flakht and uc spring to mind. If anything this would simply be a countermeasure to their reliability, currently at guns which are supposedly hard counters have a really hard time dealing with these vehicles, and their target sizes are all over the place ranging from 15 to 20. It should be standardized to 20 imo, to make counters more consistent and worthwhile

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 08:02 AMvgfgff

right. until uc and scout got nerf.

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 09:45 AMzarok47

Good stuff, though you'd run into lategame problems with LV's getting demolished.
Perhaps target size decrease with vet to solve that?



Go play OkW vs those units and not prepare for it.

Or play against any light vehicle and not prepare for it. You get punished.

It's part of the game, unless you nerf all light vehicle's.

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 11:09 AMvgfgff

ีืunless other already got nerf by reduced it armors to make in vulnerable to small arm fire.
as OKW I never have a problem with uc since its got timing nerf.

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 11:11 AMzarok47

You don't know the 251 can be damaged by small arms fire?
Have you ever played ostheer?

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 11:11 AMzarok47

You don't know the 251 can be damaged by small arms fire?
Have you ever played ostheer?

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 11:43 AMJulianSnow

vgfgff isn't looking for your solutions, only someone who tells him the 251 should indeed get 0 armor and 80 HP. To match his flamethrower engineer model.


Comparing the 251 with the KV8, which is basically a heavy tank, is laughable. Also, the KV-8 has the 45mm shells which means he KV8 can easily ditch a 251 in a 1 on 1 while the otherway around the 251 has 0 change

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 12:27 PMzarok47

I don't believe you have ever played axis, much less with the 251.

I do believe you got beaten by someone using the 251 and therefor started posting about it.

Post a replay and I'll help you figure out counters.

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 11:56 AMvgfgff

My point is it deal damage more than late game unit .

I never tell I can't deal with it.this is just unit stats nor player skill.
you guy never answer or put a fact always pulling other unit to decussion that out of point.

Jump back to quoted post27 Aug 2021, 12:53 PMvgfgff

you can check my playercard.