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The problem with ptrs

15 Apr 2021, 21:01 PM
#1
avatar of DerKuhlmann

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They can´t miss their target, so light vehicles get killed to fast, compared to other at weapons
15 Apr 2021, 21:30 PM
#3
avatar of oootto92

Posts: 177

Just like schreks getting ptrs on penals is still a meme because you are basically throwing away very AI capable unit for a slight change to bully or kill LV in the early game. Not only do you have to pay for nerfing your own army, this squad will continue to bleed MP throughout the rest of the game running after tanks compared to AT guns that do not have to get in range. If the player is really 5head he will have multiple of these "upgraded" units fighting vs opponents units and will continue to bleed tremendously.

I want to thank every soviet player ever who has upgraded ptrs on penals on behalf of my lmg grens.
15 Apr 2021, 21:32 PM
#4
avatar of Katitof

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So, where is the problem?

Because upgrade working exactly as intended most certainly isn't a problem.
15 Apr 2021, 22:40 PM
#5
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 469

Its just unfair that shreks and bazooka can miss 50% of the time on light vehicles, while a 222 gets melted in one volley, cause ptrs can´t miss
15 Apr 2021, 22:43 PM
#6
avatar of Katitof

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Its just unfair that shreks and bazooka can miss 50% of the time on light vehicles, while a 222 gets melted in one volley, cause ptrs can´t miss

Its also "just unfair" that bazooka and shreck can murder med tank frontally without much of an issue, while PTRS will deal only tiny chip damage.

And no, 222 can't be killed in 1 volley by 1 PTRS squad.
Not even in 2.

Stop using light vehicles against PTRS units.
15 Apr 2021, 23:52 PM
#7
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 469

One penal ptrs volley brings a 222 to 30% health
15 Apr 2021, 23:57 PM
#8
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

Light vehicle counter counters light vehicles.... RELIC FIX YOUR DAMN GAME.

But for real... You are trading penals AI for AT, in the same way that pgrens trade theirs, only you don't have the bundled nade or capacity to deal 240 damage to a tank in a second from the front... If the enemy went T1 and you see penals, I would advise strongly against trying to YOLO a LV around without any support.
15 Apr 2021, 23:58 PM
#9
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 469

You know, when i face soviet, he just spam penal ptrs and shocktroopers.
So you say i cant use light vehicles which is the counter to shocktroopers?
16 Apr 2021, 00:02 AM
#10
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

You know, when i face soviet, he just spam penal ptrs and shocktroopers.
So you say i cant use light vehicles which is the counter to shocktroopers?

That's a lot of manpower... What are you doing with yours? If ost build a sniper. If he's spamming PTRS and for some reason nuking his mobile AI for nothing then he won't be able to chase. Shock troops also do poorly against snipers.
MGs also work. Supporting one another incase they smoke.
Force off the PTRS then target shocks with LVs.

Withoit a replay we cant help properly however.
16 Apr 2021, 00:05 AM
#11
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 469

Okay understood
16 Apr 2021, 02:35 AM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post15 Apr 2021, 21:20 PMChukiki

btw ur muted!

How do you even mute someone?
16 Apr 2021, 04:06 AM
#13
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Apr 2021, 02:35 AMSpoof

How do you even mute someone?

You pray that they stop chatting
16 Apr 2021, 07:44 AM
#14
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Apr 2021, 02:35 AMSpoof

How do you even mute someone?

You can't, you just say it and proceed to act like 5 year old.
MMX
16 Apr 2021, 07:50 AM
#15
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i wish i could mute certain people, though
16 Apr 2021, 08:33 AM
#16
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

current state of ptrs is effective against lights and mediums.

i agree the ptrs rof against lv is too fast.
shreks will miss lv and then they starts reloading....

what is the range of ptrs? can we reduce the range or accruacy against lv?
16 Apr 2021, 08:47 AM
#17
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16 Apr 2021, 12:17 PM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Apr 2021, 02:35 AMSpoof

How do you even mute someone?


jump backJump back to quoted post16 Apr 2021, 07:50 AMMMX
i wish i could mute certain people, though


jump backJump back to quoted post16 Apr 2021, 07:44 AMKatitof

You can't, you just say it and proceed to act like 5 year old.


He is using this https://www.coh2.org/topic/44204/company-of-farts-extension-for-balance-forum-warriors
16 Apr 2021, 12:24 PM
#19
avatar of Katitof

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He is using this https://www.coh2.org/topic/44204/company-of-farts-extension-for-balance-forum-warriors

Ah, makes sense, I tried to use it in the past on V, but it changed absolutely nothing, so I assumed it doesn't work.
MMX
16 Apr 2021, 14:37 PM
#20
avatar of MMX

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He is using this https://www.coh2.org/topic/44204/company-of-farts-extension-for-balance-forum-warriors


damn this is hilarious, how come i've never even heard of this little gem before??
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