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The IL2 rocket run should have been a copy of the USF airbourne rocket loiter. No idea why this current abomination made it to the live game.
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If Ram didnt exist it would probably be fine... potentially even a little weak. The issue is that ram DOES exist, and if you can get one off (Not exactly a difficult feat) you can just delete pretty much any axis vehicle you like.
There are a lot of rather annoying offmaps, but I do think this is the worst offender.
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If Ram didnt exist it would probably be fine... potentially even a little weak.
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If Ram didnt exist it would probably be fine... potentially even a little weak. The issue is that ram DOES exist, and if you can get one off (Not exactly a difficult feat) you can just delete pretty much any axis vehicle you like.
There are a lot of rather annoying offmaps, but I do think this is the worst offender.
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The rocket is definitely a great end-game ability. Probably one of the best.
While saying it takes out 90% of the health isn't how I remember it, a full on strafe from front to back versus large hitbox tanks means you could get as many as 6 rockets (3 set times 2) in. As far as I know, that means you can knock out at least half a health bar using a ram + strafe combo. Not enough to be a no-brainer delete, but if your tank is caught out in a bad spot, it won't take much more to finish it off.
I don't know what's a good move for tweaking this. It's a pretty expensive combo if you fail, after all. The t-34 is usually dead as a cost, and the rockets are not cheap on ammo. Maybe reduce rocket stafe cost back to pre-nerf and reduce frequency of rockets fired during stafe?
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I mean, failing ram -> Strafe is rather hard, isnt it? Most of the things you'd want to ram aren't going to be able to outrun the t34, and as far as I know you don't need to drop the strafe until the T34 strikes it's target.
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It's not hard, definitely. I'd say it's one of the least skill intensive things to pull off. I meant more so it is a failure if the attack did not result in taking out the intended target. This could happen if the target is well supported, resulting in either the T-34 ram failing to connect because it stepped on a mine or otherwise such as AT taking it out. In those cases, yeah, you at least save the ammunition, but the tank is still lost for practically nothing.
The alternative is the ram connected, but then the stafe + any other assaulting forces failed to finish the job. This can happen with similar cases of support.
Either way, what I am saying is it's great taking out big tanks caught out of position, but if you can support it right, you might just end up being a huge resource drain for the opponent.
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Sure, but I think it failing due to overwhelming enemy support is rather more rare than you being able to get one/two extra shots into the side of the Elefant or whatever and killing it. It does succeed rather more often than it fails, in my experience.
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The rocket is definitely a great end-game ability. Probably one of the best.
While saying it takes out 90% of the health isn't how I remember it, a full on strafe from front to back versus large hitbox tanks means you could get as many as 6 rockets (3 set times 2) in. As far as I know, that means you can knock out at least half a health bar using a ram + strafe combo. Not enough to be a no-brainer delete, but if your tank is caught out in a bad spot, it won't take much more to finish it off.
I don't know what's a good move for tweaking this. It's a pretty expensive combo if you fail, after all. The t-34 is usually dead as a cost, and the rockets are not cheap on ammo. Maybe reduce rocket stafe cost back to pre-nerf and reduce frequency of rockets fired during stafe?
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The rockets is always comes from rear armor, and Heavy Tanks always cant react to evade that ram + rockets.
My tanks or my teammate tanks, is not out of positions, the t34 just charge ahead and other followed. afaik and experience, i never see this tactic fail to delete a tank in a game
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