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okw version gets moving accuracy but it's at vet 5
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I happened to check the editor yesterday, and the OKW Panther gets +25% base accuracy (so not moving accuracy) at vet 5. Which together with the vet 4 scatter bonus makes it extremely accurate (in a test, stationary at max range versus an SU-85, it missed only 1 shot out of 20-30).
Getting it to vet 5 is a problem though, since the requirement is ~18k xp which is a hell of a lot for a unit like the Panther.
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oh you mean double schrecks on a 4model expansive squad which has poor accu on far range and miss often...and must be in close range...but sadly will be easily wipe out than?
or did u foget trippel elite zoocks wich make 300dmg per salve...has long range accu and fast reload on a 6model squad?
did u mss the fact than every allie faction has the possbilty to can buy squads wich AT handheld AND AT NADES? this combination makes it much more easier to stop and kill enemy armor...shot one salve + at nade = enemy must stop his dive in...else lose.
someone should play the game with it possibiltys...
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Every allied player will be agree on trading zooks with shreeks.
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The Panther already stomps everything below it in cost pretty hard. An accuracy buff would make it stomp harder without making it substantially better against the units it's too weak against: heavies.
It needs a pen buff much more than an accuracy buff imo.
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I think moving accuracy should be low on all vehicles.
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and Panthers worse.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Bullshit. The game design has the Panther as a chaser unit. That means it needs accuracy.
That's incorrect, panthers have regular 50%.
They should be worse, going by historical gimmick that makes shermans have better one as accurate shooting with pretty much any german tank on the move was impossible due to lack of any stabilizers.
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I believe there's a 50% accuracy penalty for firing on the move for the majority of units. Iirc Shermans have a better one and Panthers worse.
Bullshit. The game design has the Panther as a chaser unit. That means it needs accuracy.
Your history argument is invalid since we have SU-85s outranging Panthers (which they couldnt) due to its role in the game. So give Panthers the accuracy.
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I happened to check the editor yesterday, and the OKW Panther gets +25% base accuracy (so not moving accuracy) at vet 5. Which together with the vet 4 scatter bonus makes it extremely accurate (in a test, stationary at max range versus an SU-85, it missed only 1 shot out of 20-30).
Getting it to vet 5 is a problem though, since the requirement is ~18k xp which is a hell of a lot for a unit like the Panther.
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Bullshit. The game design has the Panther as a chaser unit. That means it needs accuracy.
Your history argument is invalid since we have SU-85s outranging Panthers (which they couldnt) due to its role in the game. So give Panthers the accuracy.
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An accuracy buff isn't going to make it OP but minimalize rng. It is simply frustrating that the Panther misses shots while being deployed in its intended role.
Great so we will have a high armor high health long range blitzing high accurate tank hunter. Good luck have fun playing against that. Should we also give it non-doctrinal smoke while we are at it?
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An accuracy buff isn't going to make it OP but minimalize rng. It is simply frustrating that the Panther misses shots while being deployed in its intended role.
Currently the Panther is too niche to be fielded. The Panzer IV is a now brainer for OKW and Ost alike.
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Its inteded role is vs heavies. It already bests mediums because they cant pen it reliably, cant outrun in alot of cases, get outranged and outflanked by it. That it can miss mediums is basicly their only saving grace vs the panther.
The heavies target size could be increased to emphezise this. Same could be done with 60 range heavy td,s. And have them geared towards heavies and less so vs meds.
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The heavies target size could be increased to emphezise this
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Uhh, the Panther will lose to an IS 2
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There's no wiggle room there. Heavies already have 26 target size, which means that a Panther already has a 91% chance to directly hit (and a higher chance because of scatter hits) heavies and most TDs (0.04 far accuracy) already have over 100% chance to hit.
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There's no wiggle room there. Heavies already have 26 target size, which means that a Panther already has a 91% chance to directly hit (and a higher chance because of scatter hits) heavies and most TDs (0.04 far accuracy) already have over 100% chance to hit.
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