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Guards assualt infantry

24 Nov 2019, 15:20 PM
#1
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 469

Guards has 3 weapon slots.
Guards assualt infantry get 3 thompsons and nothing else.

Rangers 3 weapon slots.
Gets 4 thompsons and a slot of free choice.

Can we fix?


24 Nov 2019, 15:25 PM
#2
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474

Yep add the munition cost
24 Nov 2019, 16:10 PM
#3
avatar of Maret

Posts: 711

Yep add the munition cost

And remove M5 halftruck from call-in. I like this idea.
24 Nov 2019, 19:15 PM
#4
avatar of Lago

Posts: 3260

Rangers cost 340 MP 90 MU.

Assaut Guards, after subtracting the halftrack, cost 270 MP, which is less than Riflemen.

I don't think there's much of an argument that Assault Guards are bad value.
25 Nov 2019, 00:36 AM
#5
avatar of Kurobane

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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Nov 2019, 16:10 PMMaret

And remove M5 halftruck from call-in. I like this idea.


I agree
25 Nov 2019, 00:48 AM
#6
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

Posts: 5279

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Nov 2019, 19:15 PMLago
Rangers cost 340 MP 90 MU.

Assaut Guards, after subtracting the halftrack, cost 270 MP, which is less than Riflemen.

I don't think there's much of an argument that Assault Guards are bad value.

But you can't subtract the halftrack. If you want another squad of the guards you are getting another halftrack as well.
25 Nov 2019, 00:56 AM
#7
avatar of Lago

Posts: 3260

But you can't subtract the halftrack. If you want another squad of the guards you are getting another halftrack as well.


And if you want a second Jaeger Commander you just outright can't get one. That doesn't change the manpower cost.

I think the M5 Group works really nicely right now: the halftrack bundle stops you spamming the Assault Guards, and that lets them be really good value.

Plus Soviet getting an M5 Quad at CP3 is nothing to slouch at either.
25 Nov 2019, 01:16 AM
#8
avatar of T.R. Stormjäger

Posts: 3588 | Subs: 3

Keep the assault group as a call in, but make assault guards buildable at T4 or T3.

/thread
25 Nov 2019, 06:46 AM
#9
avatar of Crecer13

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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Nov 2019, 00:56 AMLago


And if you want a second Jaeger Commander you just outright can't get one. That doesn't change the manpower cost.

I think the M5 Group works really nicely right now: the halftrack bundle stops you spamming the Assault Guards, and that lets them be really good value.

Plus Soviet getting an M5 Quad at CP3 is nothing to slouch at either.


Again this mantra, no it works horribly, it's just an excuse for a stupid design. If I need infantry, I buy infantry. If I need HT, I buy HT. I need only two infantry squads - and that I will spend 720mp and 60 fuel, what I will get - two good infantry units without any additional specialization ability (Bazooka) and unnecessary HT for tremendous resources that will significantly delay the construction of the Tiers. No, I always prefer this stupid concept to the The Shock Troops, which are better as infantry, are cheaper, 2CP and do not give me unnecessary things.
25 Nov 2019, 07:56 AM
#10
avatar of Acidfreak

Posts: 281

Agreed the assault guards should be able to summon without the halftrack.
25 Nov 2019, 08:02 AM
#11
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

Halftruck is a remnant of the old tech system, where you would get the doctrine for it and the tank when you went T4 for TDs and katy instead of T3 for lights and T34.

I do agree its out of place, despite being a fan of the HT itself.
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