For Sturmpanther: Suspicious gameplay

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2018, 09:09 AMLUCKBAR

Before i official suspect anyone of maphacking, i want to know what you guys think about capitanos following movements:

min 11+12 perfect minesweeping

min 15+18 perfect flanking of a mg, which he never saw on that position

min 23 smoke on mg, before actually saw it

min 25 avoiding the cloaked raks in top right corner with his tanks

min 26 smoking the raks and suddenly chasing in

min 29 again a perfect flank on mg without seeing it

i watched everything in camera-following mode and still wonder, where he get the information about my cloaked raks and mg positions.

what do you guys think?

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2018, 11:28 AMbrosras

5:55 Cheats failed, exploded on a mine
8:50 cheats failed, we fell for mg
10:40 attached video
11-12 to put the mine sweeper in front of the tanks, it's so weird, I also think that is hacking
13:30 gave T70, "knowing" (through the hack) that he would be destroyed there
15 hm, what he had to do as a guard? go the long way to stand next to the penal in BLOB?
18 it may have been a strange flank, but later on, he uses it the same way, and when there is no MG (22 minute)
22 30 give smoke, but stood and waited, until he dispels, to be suppressed (multi-pass plan)
25 minutes he saw a rocket there. 26 minutes, gives there Smoke, suspicious
27 perfect rush panther
29 going to grab the point, accidentally saw mg-perfect flank!

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2018, 11:28 AMbrosras

11-12 to put the mine sweeper in front of the tanks, it's so weird, I also think that is hacking
13:30 gave T70, "knowing" (through the hack) that he would be destroyed there
15 hm, what he had to do as a guard? go the long way to stand next to the penal in BLOB?
18 it may have been a strange flank, but later on, he uses it the same way, and when there is no MG (22 minute)
22 30 give smoke, but stood and waited, until he dispels, to be suppressed (multi-pass plan)
25 minutes he saw a rocket there. 26 minutes, gives there Smoke, suspicious

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:12 PMLUCKBAR

11-12 and then going straight to the second mine with that sweeper with t70 supp

13:30 even maphack cant prevent unit losses, when being distracted somewhere else.

15 interesting, that he starts separate his units in THAT exact moment

18 wow, sth strange, but he is doing it again - so ok

22 smoke with which indication? he never saw mg before there

25 seing one rak is not an explanation for that stalling with 2 t3485 and then smoking the second he couldnt see

summarized, im still not convinced he played clean.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:36 PMArtavick

Besides you neglecting half of brosras' counter points, your arguments make no sense, I'm wondering if we watched the same replay. He has never looked into the fog of war and he has lost units multiple times throughout the match where he could have saved them if he was indeeed maphacking. Your suspicions are him sending minesweepers ahead to look for mines, splitting units while approaching a position knowing that there's an mg somewhere and using smoke before a push? You gotta find stronger evidence than that I'm afraid.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2018, 07:20 AMLUCKBAR

i dont know how exactly maphacking works (if you see units on minimap or through fog of war)
but suddenly not rushing a certain area of a map with his tanks without knowing about the existence of 2 raks is suspicious.

and running perfect flanks on mgs, which position he never saw before is also suspicious, i cant understand why you neglect that so easily.
it is a big map, why should he smoke an area out of nowhere? he has never seen that mg before. it is note e.g. like rails and metal where you know the chokepoints.

but i understand, cb guys will never be objective in this case.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2018, 07:20 AMLUCKBAR

i dont know how exactly maphacking works (if you see units on minimap or through fog of war)
but suddenly not rushing a certain area of a map with his tanks without knowing about the existence of 2 raks is suspicious.

and running perfect flanks on mgs, which position he never saw before is also suspicious, i cant understand why you neglect that so easily.
it is a big map, why should he smoke an area out of nowhere? he has never seen that mg before. it is note e.g. like rails and metal where you know the chokepoints.

but i understand, cb guys will never be objective in this case.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:12 PMLUCKBAR

15 interesting, that he starts separate his units in THAT exact moment