Fix ur pudding balance team

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 07:03 AM|GB| The Hooligan486

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Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 01:16 AMShadowLinkX37

Fix ur pudding balance team

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 13:46 PMSturmpanther

Maybe list up what kind of things teased you in this game? Because so I have no idea atm.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 09:59 AMsiddolio

+1

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 07:03 AM|GB| The Hooligan486

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• Su76 100% pen on a p4
  
• Guards doing literally EVERYTHING. They have Ober DPS, they can engage tanks, they can incapacitate tanks, they have grenades, they have 6 men, they come at 2 CPs.
  
• My p4 can't kill 1 con model on retreat with volks while his engineer can kill my vet 5 volks on retreat with a mosin
  
• 2x ISG can't dislodge a single maxim in a stone house because stone house and 6 men and ISG
  
• IL2 deleting EVERYTHING it wants while it flies over my flak base for FULL DURATION with AA mode on. Didn't shoot down either plane. Effective counter!
  
• Su76 100% pen on a p4
  
• Cons getting oorah! because why use actual flanks when you can just sprint by MGs because XD.
  
• Flare mines, 10 munis kills 30MP (grenadier) model. efficient as hell and on backbone infantry.
  
• MG-34 still shooting air pellets
  

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 15:35 PMShadowLinkX37

Well my 1st suggestion is actually downloading the replay.

2nd is literally the everything soviet meta aside from snipers. kthx.

• Su76 100% pen on a p4
  
• Guards doing literally EVERYTHING. They have Ober DPS, they can engage tanks, they can incapacitate tanks, they have grenades, they have 6 men, they come at 2 CPs.
  
• My p4 can't kill 1 con model on retreat with volks while his engineer can kill my vet 5 volks on retreat with a mosin
  
• 2x ISG can't dislodge a single maxim in a stone house because stone house and 6 men and ISG
  
• IL2 deleting EVERYTHING it wants while it flies over my flak base for FULL DURATION with AA mode on. Didn't shoot down either plane. Effective counter!
  
• Su76 100% pen on a p4
  
• Cons getting oorah! because why use actual flanks when you can just sprint by MGs because XD.
  
• Flare mines, 10 munis kills 30MP (grenadier) model. efficient as hell and on backbone infantry.
  
• MG-34 still shooting air pellets
  

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 15:59 PMNosliw

Funny since SU76 penetration got nerfed, guards got nerfed, ISG but buffed, IL2 got nerfed, cons sprinting past MG is L2P issue, MG34 is pretty good last time I played.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 16:20 PMsiddolio

Norsk is better than you whats the point watcvhing the replay. Everyone has lost to guard rifle this patch everyone knows its unfun

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 18:30 PMShadowLinkX37

Hell at least it'd be better than nerfing stuka CAS and then learning literally zero and buffing P47 over the top.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 20:55 PMsiddolio

Yeah I had nothing to do with last patch.

Pretty much everything you've complained about here is due changes. There have been like 5 different iterations of SU76 nerf in notes just so you know, you aren't the first person to realise how aids it is.

Also, Guard Rifle is almost auto-win once T3 is up vs Ost but OKW still has more outs.

I don't agree about MG34 being horrendously bad, I'd still take it over Vickers or Maxim on live. MG34 is bad vs HTD cons but so is MG42 a lot of the time.

Sovs still dont have good flak HT counters going that build so planes have never been a problem for me. STG volks-ppsh con matchup is pretty easy if you're using infil nade or val assault commanders and don't move into engagements but let them come to you.

I'll bookmark this replay and watch it next time I stream.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 21:08 PMShadowLinkX37

Didn't say you did.

Indeed, yet half of things I've complained about arn't in the notes, or public notes for that matter.

MG34 > Vickers? wat. MG34 suppression may be slightly better, but the damage is way one sided. Don't know what HTD is.

Good flak track counter = AT gun

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 21:58 PMsiddolio

Zis setup time makes it a bad counter and t2 to at gun is almost 500mp.

Id take suppression over damage anyday on an mg why else would you make an mg. Nevermind vickers ability to kill the model its shooting at before suppressing and having conplete meme vet bonuses

Nerfing every aspect of a build is a stupid thing to do, its the reason so many units are shit tier right now. Take out the most egregious elements see what gamestate it leads too, if it opens up more build paths

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 22:04 PMShadowLinkX37

But somehow side teching for OKW medics at 50 fuel and 500 manpower is fine.

Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2018, 22:04 PMShadowLinkX37

But somehow side teching for OKW medics at 50 fuel and 500 manpower is fine.

Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2018, 13:56 PMNosliw

Truck Placement = 200 mp
Upgrade = 100mp

200 + 100 = 300