This match shows only what is wrong with new factions once they met the old ones. They are just not fitting. There is no effective counter to vet 5 volks with StGs w/o guards or penals, cons even with PPSh'es are not that cost effective to fighting with them, unless you won't catch single volk squad somewhere on the map. Blobing is really high rewarding (for example in this match, he runned straight into KV-8, killed ZiS behind it and just runned away with few models dropped per squads. I was like LOOOL). I may even understand that because OKW has to also fight with Brits and USF, which would be not possible without these things but soviets? Is it really possible to win without abusing like penals, guards combo, rushing to T-70, catching units on demos? inb4 maxims, if its not spam, they are struggeling too match to double LeIGs, but even without it, they can easly blob and fuck maxim straight from the front without that problems, even with cons support because they are doing no damage vs their 5th vet RA.
I suspect new factions will be problematic before their release in 2k14, as I was a guy who wanted to seperate west and ost front and I keep my decision. Because the main problem are Ostheers and Soviets, who can't fight and trade cost effectivly without cheesy strats and units like snipers, stugs e, maxim spam, guards etc. I wrote my thoughts, I'm waiting for good responce from a guys who will show or say, how it's possible to win against WFA factions as the old ones, without such a bs strats.
This game may be example, I know my mistakes there, teched up but didn't get anything from that for real, and I would say it's the one which I made from my wrong decisions. Rest are the missclicks or game problems/RNG festivals.
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Frost [Soviets] vs. GentleFox [Westheer]
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Frost
16th February 2017, 14:19 PM
- [00:00:07] Frost:
- [00:00:11] [Lv.5]GentleFox:
16 Feb 2017, 14:19 PM
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16 Feb 2017, 16:18 PM
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Permanently BannedWelcome to my club, you write what i talk all time with good english level. Wihtout abuse win with soviet vs OKW its ResidentSleeper.
Problem with combine arms cons + maxim are, in slow opening vs OKW, coz you lost map control = hello luchs/ hello 2 isg. After folks get STG > cons.
Problem with combine arms cons + maxim are, in slow opening vs OKW, coz you lost map control = hello luchs/ hello 2 isg. After folks get STG > cons.
16 Feb 2017, 18:56 PM
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I think everybody with brain knows, that if allies don't abuse some special tactis / Op untis- OKW will win allways. That was allways so.
17 Feb 2017, 06:43 AM
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I thought everybody with brain knows, that if fraction special tactics / Op untis, not makes fraction (allies exactly) op, because at the moment all fractions have special tactics / Op untis. But all just love to complain about allies dominating. Oh my.
17 Feb 2017, 11:46 AM
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I usually never comment on balance things but this whole thread is just idiotic.
It's like saying Real Madrid sucks without CR7, Modric and Sergio Ramos.
Why would Real Madrid not use these players if they have them at their disposal.
Non meta balance opinions like this will lead to things like Miragefla making penals super OP in automatch, because he wanted non-meta units like penals to be good.
If you dont use meta, its fine, but don't cry about it on the forums and ingame if you lose....
It's like saying Real Madrid sucks without CR7, Modric and Sergio Ramos.
Why would Real Madrid not use these players if they have them at their disposal.
Non meta balance opinions like this will lead to things like Miragefla making penals super OP in automatch, because he wanted non-meta units like penals to be good.
If you dont use meta, its fine, but don't cry about it on the forums and ingame if you lose....
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