OKW help needed, cant counter as Soviets
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30th October 2015, 19:26 PM
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30 Oct 2015, 19:26 PM
#1
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just losing every encounter against the OKW blobs, just cant find a counter to them, this game is the only one this patch...plz bloody help here, ive lost 9 games on the trot against OKW
30 Oct 2015, 20:28 PM
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just losing every encounter against the OKW blobs, just cant find a counter to them, this game is the only one this patch...plz bloody help here, ive lost 9 games on the trot against OKW
Don't have time to watch game, but usually it's best to get a Zis wall + 1xKv-8 into Is-2. 1 shock squad to go after raketens. and cons with full upgrade. Also rush a halftrack Upgunned or T-70.
30 Oct 2015, 20:44 PM
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I noticed you have over 2600 games as soviets. At this stage tips don't really help that much, the only thing that might help is to play 20-30 games as okw and lose hard sometimes against soviets.
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31 Oct 2015, 11:00 AM
#4
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yeah I thought that, so I played an OKW game yesterday, I won it against Americans, trouble is I didn't actually enjoy it, as I don't like playing Axis, they remind me to much of WW2 Germans, as a history buff its just not fun for me, the real reason I play Soviets is I actually bought this game to play out the eastern front, didnt know at the time all these other factions were going to be added, ruined team games for me, as I don't like the faction mixing that goes on, enough of all that nonsense as its just my way of enjoying the game, I was thinking it may just be the limiting factor of my own skill, the reason I asked you guys is because its happening so consistently, yet I have a much better time against Ost, so thought I must be missing something here or going about something wrong
31 Oct 2015, 11:48 AM
#5
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Don't have time to watch game, but usually it's best to get a Zis wall + 1xKv-8 into Is-2. 1 shock squad to go after raketens. and cons with full upgrade. Also rush a halftrack Upgunned or T-70.
yeah maybe I should drop the SU-85's and T34'85's, I think maybe they are killing me, play defensively, maybe I'm too aggressive, I spend all game panicking about the bloody KT or jadg.
31 Oct 2015, 21:54 PM
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yeah maybe I should drop the SU-85's and T34'85's, I think maybe they are killing me, play defensively, maybe I'm too aggressive, I spend all game panicking about the bloody KT or jadg.
There is No reason to ever make an Su-8five. EVER. Su-76 is far superior in that role now. Usually it's best to stay in Soviet T3 (T-70, halftrack, Su-76) until you can call in tanks (lend lease, KV-8, IS-2)
1 Nov 2015, 03:34 AM
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Yeah, soviets are in a pretty weird spot right now.
My advice? abuse the team weapons, use maxims bulletins (especially the accuracy one) and make 2 maxims and one mortar to slow down the blobs.
another thing is, don't bother with cons, make 3 of them AT MOST, but 2 is already enough, try to compliment them with flamer engies and use merge on those mgs.
never forget, mines and demos are your best bets.
and don't overextend, relic may have sold the "soviets are super aggressive faction" but in reality they aren't, try to keep a balance between attacking and defending and you should be fine.
there are lot's of other tips I could say, but I'm really tired now, maybe later after I watch your replay
My advice? abuse the team weapons, use maxims bulletins (especially the accuracy one) and make 2 maxims and one mortar to slow down the blobs.
another thing is, don't bother with cons, make 3 of them AT MOST, but 2 is already enough, try to compliment them with flamer engies and use merge on those mgs.
never forget, mines and demos are your best bets.
and don't overextend, relic may have sold the "soviets are super aggressive faction" but in reality they aren't, try to keep a balance between attacking and defending and you should be fine.
there are lot's of other tips I could say, but I'm really tired now, maybe later after I watch your replay
2 Nov 2015, 00:38 AM
#8
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There is No reason to ever make an Su-8five. EVER. Su-76 is far superior in that role now. Usually it's best to stay in Soviet T3 (T-70, halftrack, Su-76) until you can call in tanks (lend lease, KV-8, IS-2)
I have won five games against OKW and lost one to an obviously superior player since listening to your advice about going cons to tier two with a shock squad, I get a single MG and then Zis wall to KV8 then IS2, I think I was trying to be too clever and going too mixed arms, instead of getting a steady stream of cons going and winning battles as opposed to trying to win the map, thank you for your help its been greatly appreciated, must admit the napalm nade being toned down a bit has helped as well
2 Nov 2015, 01:46 AM
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Yeah, soviets are in a pretty weird spot right now.
My advice? abuse the team weapons, use maxims bulletins (especially the accuracy one) and make 2 maxims and one mortar to slow down the blobs.
another thing is, don't bother with cons, make 3 of them AT MOST, but 2 is already enough, try to compliment them with flamer engies and use merge on those mgs.
never forget, mines and demos are your best bets.
and don't overextend, relic may have sold the "soviets are super aggressive faction" but in reality they aren't, try to keep a balance between attacking and defending and you should be fine.
there are lot's of other tips I could say, but I'm really tired now, maybe later after I watch your replay
I used to do this sometimes before the napalm nade, I found myself being hugely outnumbered though, I think because it kills so few models as it prompts an immediate retreat, having said that it can definitely work
2 Nov 2015, 04:02 AM
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I have won five games against OKW and lost one to an obviously superior player since listening to your advice about going cons to tier two with a shock squad, I get a single MG and then Zis wall to KV8 then IS2, I think I was trying to be too clever and going too mixed arms, instead of getting a steady stream of cons going and winning battles as opposed to trying to win the map, thank you for your help its been greatly appreciated, must admit the napalm nade being toned down a bit has helped as well
Glad it helped.
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