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Float 1K Fuel, but win

by SageOfTheSix 28th July 2015, 19:14 PM
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  • [00:00:06] SturmTigerSage6: glglglghfhfhfhff
  • [00:00:10] Arthurkrupp: u2
  • [00:00:12] SturmTigerSage6: tytt
  • [00:09:24] SturmTigerSage6: gg
  • [00:20:55] Arthurkrupp: those mines lol
  • [00:21:07] SturmTigerSage6: tahts the whole point of commander
  • [00:27:04] SturmTigerSage6: fine u come to me
  • [00:31:19] SturmTigerSage6: pak spam
  • [00:38:02] SturmTigerSage6: make me more pask pls
  • [00:43:45] Arthurkrupp: that squad is bugged outy
  • [00:52:57] Arthurkrupp: gg
  • [00:53:22] SturmTigerSage6: make more paks
  • [00:53:50] Arthurkrupp: moan some more
  • [00:53:58] SturmTigerSage6: op germasn and u still lose lol
  • [00:54:38] SturmTigerSage6: relic game balacne fed up
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28 Jul 2015, 19:14 PM
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Soviet vs Oshteer pak wall so retarded now that you're better off just spamming sniper and at gun yourself and play sniper wars then you are making any tanks. By end of match floated 1000 Fuel, manpower capped, and honestly there was nothing decent I could spend fuel on imo. Something needs to change here Relic,.,..

I suggest lowering Manpower cost of ALL medium + heavy vehicles and increasing fuel costs across the board (except for okw), and recomputed the upkeep costs of vehciles.

Also soviet T-34/76 is completely worthless. This tank needs to be redesigned as a more durable T-70 ( AI tank) and sure reduce it's penetration to compensate. with the new su-76 penetration and by moving it to T4 the t-34/76 is now worthless in it's current state since it has no role and does mot things poorly. the t-34/76 should be an Ostwind-like tank.
28 Jul 2015, 19:47 PM
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Maybe you shouldn't be going completely worthless doctrines like these with absolutely no lategame on the most axis biased map in the game if you actually want to win? Just a suggestion :luvDerp:


You had a massive earlygamae advantage , should of just apammed 3-4 t-70s and just completely crushed him. Nothing a pak wall can do againts so many t-70s, even if 1 dies to a teller, the flank will still succeed :sibHyena:

If he gets the command tank just get an su-76, no real need for T4 at all in 1s. Except on urban maps where counterting PIV/ostwind or whatever doesn't work with su-76. So you need t-34.


Go IS-2 doc so you don't have to tech and it's a failsafe since even if you lose your t-70s you cna still get the IS-2 later.


Go lend lease or KV-1 if you want to be non meta :luvDerp:
28 Jul 2015, 20:02 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 19:47 PMBurts
Maybe you shouldn't be going completely worthless doctrines like these with absolutely no lategame on the most axis biased map in the game if you actually want to win? Just a suggestion :luvDerp:


You had a massive earlygamae advantage , should of just apammed 3-4 t-70s and just completely crushed him. Nothing a pak wall can do againts so many t-70s, even if 1 dies to a teller, the flank will still succeed :sibHyena:

If he gets the command tank just get an su-76, no real need for T4 at all in 1s. Except on urban maps where counterting PIV/ostwind or whatever doesn't work with su-76. So you need t-34.


Go IS-2 doc so you don't have to tech and it's a failsafe since even if you lose your t-70s you cna still get the IS-2 later.

End game becomes too dangerous for a 2-shot T-70 to really do much, so having a more durable AI tank in the T-34/76 would give something for soviet to use fuel on late game from T4.

Go lend lease or KV-1 if you want to be non meta :luvDerp:


Burt you're reiterating my point: indeed, there is NO point in really going T4 in 1v1, and this after the so called "soviet balance patch to increase unit diversityetc..." End game is 1 of 2 things in this game: 1) A super heavy durable to take damage while rest of army does damage or as duable as possible AI tank with AT gun wall. Buffing the AI on the T-34/76 (even at the cost of it's AT ability) would at least allow for this 2nd end game and give soiet T4 some usefulness
28 Jul 2015, 20:05 PM
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Burt you're reiterating my point: indeed, there is NO point in really going T4 in 1v1, and this after the so called "soviet balance patch to increase unit diversityetc..." End game is 1 of 2 things in this game: 1) A super heavy durable to take damage while rest of army does damage or as duable as possible AI tank with AT gun wall. Buffing the AI on the T-34/76 (even at the cost of it's AT ability) would at least allow for this 2nd end game and give soiet T4 some usefulness



Well, T4 is very good in teamgames, but i get your point. Doesn't mean T4 is useless, after all t-34/85 is still good, right :sibHyena:
28 Jul 2015, 20:11 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Jul 2015, 20:05 PMBurts



Well, T4 is very good in teamgames, but i get your point. Doesn't mean T4 is useless, after all t-34/85 is still good, right :sibHyena:


I just saying buffing T-34/76 AI would really fix a lot of problems. Late game german infantry w/ lmg > cons. The german sniper is now a beast (as witnessed in that AimStrong/Simon game). Late game Ostheer have better AI infantry and (with ostwind/command tank) better AI tank than Soviet. This is the crux of the problem late game soviet atm. 1 SIMPLE change (give AI buff to T-34/76) would solve ALL the current problems in the current patch/meta. T-34/85 are nice, and could/should be an AT + penetration upgrade over stock T-34/76, but lets make the T-34/76 useful by filling a huge hole in the soviet late game.

As I've illustrated in this game your only real option ( besides relying on call-in super heavy) is to spam snipers and out-micro enemy snipers. ( this is NOT fun playstyle and big reason I never took COH1 serious).
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